More video and eyewitness info on Al Jazeera so far

Also reported on Common Dreams and Middle East Eye.

I haven’t found any reports of any independent investigations yet, hopefully they are underway

  • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    So it’ll be easy for you to draw meaningful distinctions between current Israel and Novemberpogrome-era Nazi Germany, right?

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          11 months ago

          A Nazi is a nazi; an Israeli is not a nazi. I don’t think they are currently equivalent. There are undoubtedly horrible ones, though. I watched a PBS report on an old Israeli woman who has made it her mission in life to force Palestinians out of Gaza. She is bats*ht crazy.

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            11 months ago

            You don’t understand what a comparison is, do you? If you’re comparing 2 things, they’re definitionally not the same single thing - I asked for meaningful differences between the two.

            If there’s no meaningful difference, I think it would be sensible to respond as though they’re dealing with the rise of the Nazis.

            Some similarities - they’re far-right authoritarians that have pivoted their leadership around the creation and subjugation of a ethno-religious “other”, while spouting openly genocidal rhetoric, and beginning the early steps of the genocide they’ve laid the plans for. They’re hostile to their neighbours, and will undoubtedly move on to annexing them given the opportunity once the Palestinian annexation is complete.

            Some differences would be that Israel is less homophobic than the Nazis were at that point, and that Israel established an apartheid state and (open air) concentration camp as a preparatory step, which the Nazis didn’t. Israel also funded Hamas’s rise to power over the secular moderates to manufacture pretext, which I didn’t see from the Nazis (who had less need, as they were less reliant on external support) - I’d argue all that makes Israel worse on balance.

            Feel free to take another run at it if you like.