• ANGRY_MAPLE@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    It’s easier to ignore when it’s not your loved ones at risk. I’ll stop giving a shit when people finally just live and let live. I’ll chill out when people can live their own lives in peace, without worrying about unprovoked violence. I’ll cool down about it when the murder rates go down. I’ll relax when people stop forcing women to bear rapists children. I’ll calm when people stop trying to remove human rights.

    It’s simple, really. If you are against human rights, I want nothing to do with you. If you encourage or support people losing human rights, I want nothing to do with you. If you don’t care about these things because it isn’t you, we certainly won’t get along. I’m over “Wait and see”, because it ends with innocent people dead.

    • democracy1984@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Abortion isn’t a simple human rights issue. Every human has a right to choose what happens to their body, and every human has a right to live.

      But with pregnancy, these rights are at odds with each other. Who’s right is more important, the right of the baby to be born, or the right of the mother to not give birth? And at exactly what moment does this change?

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        1 year ago

        Her body, her choice. The fetus is a parasitic clump of cells until it comes- out of the womb, and it is entirely up to her what she wants to do with it. The fetus does not have the right to be born as it is a clump of parasitic cells, not a person. Bodily autonomy is a fundamental right, the government cannot force you to donate blood, even if it would kill someone else who needs it if you didn’t. So why should a woman have to carry around an unwanted parasite that does permanent, often harmful changes to her body and can sometimes kill her?

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          The fetus is a parasitic clump of cells until it comes- out of the womb

          An embryo is a clump of cells. A fetus is an incomplete human body.

          The fetus does not have the right to be born as it is a clump of parasitic cells, not a person.

          Almost everyone agrees that sperm or unfertilized eggs don’t have rights, but they do agree that a newborn baby has rights. At exactly what moment does it switch?

          the government cannot force you to donate blood, even if it would kill someone else

          There’s a difference between mandating and banning a medical procedure. (Birth is different, that will happen without any intervention).

          can sometimes kill her?

          If the mothers life is in danger, then an abortion makes sense.

          This is not an easy ethical question with a right and wrong answer. Just because you feel strongly about your answer, doesn’t mean it is correct.