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      I also think it’s finally sunk in that the wall idea will never actually work. And then someone said “iron dome”, and his brain concluded that a dome sounds more bad-ass than a wall, anyway.

      Recall he has said that his temperment now and when he was in first grade is “not all that different”. So whenever you try to work out his thought process, it helps to think like a seven-year-old. (Not six: If Trump were a kid today, his parents would have definitely held him back a year)

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        Alternative hypothesis: he’s also been listening to flat-earthers who think there’s a crystal dome keeping the air from leaking into space, and he got both ideas mixed together in his brain.

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      If you watch the surrounding context, he is absolutely talking about a missile intercept program. He referred to “MIT graduates” going “bing bong boom” to make an incoming missile “completely gone.”

      So all the comments acting as if he wants a physical giant dome are attacking a strawman while the actual fact he’s taking about missile defense like a five year old is lampoon-worthy enough.

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        He doesn’t understand it enough to explain it and that is why the “poorly educated” love him.

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    Trump criticized sending “billions of dollars out of the countries so they can build a dome, but we don’t have a dome ourselves.”

    “We’re going to have the greatest dome ever,” he continued.

    It astounds me that anyone is willing to vote for someone this stupid. It’s not an act. He is legitimately stupid. That’s been on full display this past fucking decade.

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      I…I kind of wonder if he means something like the iron dome that Israel has. I’m trying to translate his senile brain into something that is tangible.

      But then again… we’re talking about a man who said a nuke could get rid of a hurricane.

      Sigh

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        That’s exactly what he’s talking about. The full context is him talking about MIT graduates shooting down an incoming missile - kindergarten sound effects and all.

        The way people here are misinterpreting it as him wanting a physical dome just makes us look like fools in addition to him.

        What he’s actually saying is dumb enough. Turning a scarecrow into a straw man isn’t helpful.

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          I don’t know man, he’s shown time and again that he has some real difficulties truly understanding certain concepts.

          A part of me feels like he genuinely believes there’s some sort of physical dome involved in this particular type of air defense system.

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          So people are fools for not interpreting the incoherent ramblings of the mango shitgibbon? If a US presidential candidate is incapable of basic communication, and is ahead in the polls, lord help the world.

          We’re doomed.

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            That’s the thing I like about Trump. He always says exactly what he means.

            If only we could figure out what he’s saying…

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        Read the comments about his thoughts on magnets elsewhere in this thread and realize he means exactly what he says, no translation required.

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        FTA:

        Trump criticized sending “billions of dollars out of the countries so they can build a dome, but we don’t have a dome ourselves.”

        “We’re going to have the greatest dome ever,” he continued.

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        If you follow the senile logic, a nuke very well may end a hurricane. That much overpressure and heat added to the environment is going to affect it - and the living things on the only habitable biome…

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          No, they’re too weak. Trump wasn’t the only person with that idea, so NHS has had a discussion of the math up for years: https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd-faq/#Stop

          The tl;Dr is that hurricanes have much more power tied up into them than currently used nukes release, by a tremendous amount. Quoting:

          The heat release is equivalent to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb exploding every 20 minutes. According to the 1993 World Almanac, the entire human race used energy at a rate of 1013 watts in 1990, a rate less than 20% of the power of a hurricane

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        As much as I’ll happily rag on the prequels, I think a lot about a line from the Phantom Menace, as said by Yoda: “Fear is the path to the dark side…fear leads to anger…anger leads to hate…hate leads to suffering.”

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          they are afraid because they were told to be afraid. lies are repeated every 30 seconds on fox news to achieve this fear.

          why do people allow this to happen to them? lack of critical thinking skills and social isolation.

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            lack of critical thinking skills

            Exactly. So much could be solved with just a basic highschool critical thinking course.

            But the GOP have their voters so brainwashed, that they’d just pull their kids out of school and “home school” if they even tried to institute one.

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          Religion is probably part of it. A lot of the more conservative sects of Christianity emphasize both uncritical conformity and a fear of punishment.

          It’s why some don’t understand how you can be a good, moral person without religion. Their morality is based on that fear of punishment.

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      It’s crazy how easily manipulated they are. I think that must be why Republican politicians are so goddamned detestable, you have to be a POS to be taking advantage of people like that in the first place. They know they’re going after less-educated people, taking advantage of their fears, and soaking up whatever money or power they have to give. Just constantly throwing out these new threats for people to be afraid of to distract them from the fact that they’re robbing them blind and directly working against their own base’s interests. Like, as long as you don’t mind lying to people on a regular basis, have at least some small amount of charisma and don’t feel bad attacking some other minority group, you can probably do ok in the Republican party, regardless of whatever you’ve done in the past.

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        The people spouting eugenics and race theory are literally the ones who are genetically inferior themselves. Curious.

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          no, this is not a genetic issue. this is psychological warfare. this entire block of humans is being controlled by a bunch of rich fucks who could not care less about them.

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          It’s not how they were born, it’s how they have used their brain since then. There is a reason the brain is commonly referred to as a muscle. Whatever parts you use are the parts that get more connections and tissue density as well as overall size due to pushing against the less dense areas beside them. So the oversized amygdala is because it is being used more often, not how they were born.

          They are very good at being scared because it’s the part of the brain they work out the most. So it comes so easy to them, almost all pathways lead there eventually. If you only ever work out your arms, you’re gonna naturally gravitate to activities that exclusively use your arms, as they will be so much relatively easier to you compared to other physical activities.

          It’s also why doing a wide variety of puzzles and other cognitive challenges as often as possible promotes overall brain health. Don’t skip primary motor cortex day.

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      By definition.

      If conservatives in general weren’t so damned afraid of everything, they wouldn’t be conservatives in the first place.

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      They’re not. At least not “truthfully”.

      Whether it’s drag shows, lesbian sex tapes, or whatever example you want to use, the Republicans don’t personally have a problem with any of them.

      What they DO have, is the knowledge that if you give uneducated people someone to hate/fear and then say that YOU are the one who can save them from it while implicitly giving them permission to hate, you’ll get votes.

      It’s not about what they personally believe. Never has been. It’s what their voters are afraid of.

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      Except most cases of illegal immigration people come here through legal channels and overstay their visa. In other words the people he’s trying to keep out are already here and that’s just another reason know he’s a smooth brained moron and a vile racist

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        i read that more immigrants come through LAX than the entire northern and southern and coastal borders every year.

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          The really dumb thing about it is that they’re literally migrants crossing the border, which is why the media refers to them that way. The frightening numbers that we hear about crossing the border each day into the U.S. are offset by large numbers of people crossing the border back to Mexico. The net-inmigration is much lower, and lots of times even negative. (More people leave.) The truth isn’t scary enough, though.

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    …sooo how’s that wall going?

    Seems like that’d be the first step in building a dome, but the best we could do was a couple of stretches of fence. I’m sure it’ll be fine - Trump is a man of his word after all.

    I genuinely view conservatism as a mental illness at this point.

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    He… he knows that Israel’s “Iron Dome” isn’t LITERALLY a dome, right? Like the Iron Curtain wasn’t ACTUALLY a curtain.

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      If you watch the video he goes on rambling about how “MIT graduates” go “bing bong boom” and shoot down an incoming missile “and then it’s gone.”

      So yes, he seems aware it’s a missile intercept program and not a literal physical dome.

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      he knows that Israel’s “Iron Dome” isn’t LITERALLY a dome, right?

      This is Trump. That statement is NOT a given by any means. Odds are he does think exactly that.

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      further, the “iron dome” of israel wouldn’t cover the state of florida. can you even imagine the logistics of trying to install one to cover the continental united states?

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      I can’t wait till his supporters start the, “he isn’t being literal” thing again until he says the, “THE DOME JUST GOT 10FEET TALLE’r”

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      I’m not saying Trump’s any kind of actual “stable genius”, but he’s not as dumb as he acts. Just like George W Bush did, he plays social media, exploiting what I like to call the “pro wrestling fallacy” that liberals fall for every time.

      Back in the nineties, seemingly educated, largely-Democrat-leaning people would talk about how dumb wrestling fans were, since it’s all obviously faked. The largely-Republican-leaning wrestling fans knew it was fake, it’s a show ffs, they aren’t five year olds, and they naturally felt really insulted, contributing to the growth of a divide that we see today - redcaps against the rest of us. You’d even get people passionately arguing that it’s real, maybe to feel like they’re kind of part of the show, maybe just to troll the “liberal elitists” who were looking down on them.

      Every time Dubya said something like “misunderestimated”, “is our children learning”, or “catapult the propaganda”, we all made fun of it, it was talked about on the talking head shows, maybe even a bit on Saturday Night Live. To us, he looked dumb, but his messages got more circulation, his name was said more, and the people who already felt this (actually ivy-league educated scion of a wealthy elitist family) was just a regular guy they could have a bear with, people who could empathize with not having the perfect words all the time, they felt like we were making fun of them - which, in a way, we were. They loved him for being one of them.

      In a lot of ways, Trump has just taken that to the next level. He’s a master of getting us to attack him, in a way that make large parts of the country love him, and it works.

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        Bush was definitely acting dumb. I realized this was not just a hunch when watching a recording of him giving a minor speech on foreign policy to some group of media that covered this (like foreign press assn or something).

        He was articulate, intelligent, using “big words”, and had dropped the aw shucks accent. The speech was measured and insightful.

        I don’t agree with his politics but the idiot thing was an act to trick the rubes.

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    You know, when I watch, uh, our guys operate those things, it’s unbelievable. Missile coming in, missile coming in. These geniuses sit down. Most of them are, you know, they’re from MIT. But they sit down, bing bing bing bing, boom, ph-sheee. It’s gone. It’s amazing. I think we could use, do you like that? I mean, isn’t that better than giving other countries billions of dollars? Billions. We’re going to get billions of dollars out of the countries and so they can build a dome, but we don’t have a dome ourselves. We’re going to have the greatest dome ever.

    He’s clearly not talking about a literal physical dome.

    Clickbait.

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      Well, to be fair, he probably came up with it after hearing about Israel’s Iron Dome. So he might’ve meant something like that. Or he might think it’s a literal dome. Who can say with Trump.