• bean@lemmy.world
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    “Not a single resident will be left without help, we will support everyone as much as possible,” Gusev said.

    Here is a half loaf of moldy bread, a pair of socks, and a bill for your house being in the way of our bomb.

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      Accidental? Do better, Russia. America hits its targets.

      From the article…

      A lawsuit in federal court found that the city used excessive force and violated constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure.[5]

      I wonder what Russia’s court system will do?

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        Was anyone actually punished, though? All I can see is the families were awarded money.

        Did the cops that drop the bomb actually get punished?? I can’t find information about it.

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          From the same article…

          City of Philadelphia ordered to pay $1.5 million in 1996 to a MOVE bombing survivor and the families of people killed, $12.83 million awarded in 2005 to residents who were made homeless.

          No one from the city government was criminally charged in the attack. The only surviving adult MOVE member, Ramona Africa, refused to testify in court and was charged and convicted on charges of riot and conspiracy; she served seven years in prison.[23]

          There’s allot more, I just don’t want to paste the whole Wiki article here. But if you read through the wiki article’s “Aftermath” section it does lay out everything. There was a lot of legal action involved. Oh, which reminds me…

          I wonder what Russia’s court system will do?

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            Oh, I don’t doubt that the U.S. court system treated these people better than Russia would. I just don’t think that it’s accurate to compare the two on this matter.

            I don’t think awarding money to people because they suffered something that should never have happened is applause worthy. That’s bare minimum shit, especially because this isn’t the first instance something like this has happened. I’m referring to the Tulsa race massacre.

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              Oh, I don’t doubt that the U.S. court system treated these people better than Russia would. I just don’t think that it’s accurate to compare the two on this matter.

              I don’t think awarding money to people because they suffered something that should never have happened is applause worthy. That’s bare minimum shit, especially because this isn’t the first instance something like this has happened. I’m referring to the Tulsa race massacre.

              I agree.

              The obvious point that the OP was making…

              Accidental? Do better, Russia. America hits its targets.

              … was to suggest equality between the United States and Russia and how they handle situations like this in general.

              While the US did not handle it as well as it should have handled it, it did handle it better than Russia would, and to suggest otherwise is not factual, but instead just trying to sway opinion.

              The OPs comment seems to be a normal state of affairs for legal versus “legal” situation comparisons of the two countries.

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      This is extremely fucked up. First time I’ve heard of this, thanks for commenting

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      I don’t know how I didn’t know about this at the time. I was in college and I guess I didn’t really watch the news. I was using a precursor to the internet at the time but it was all research and technical collaboration, no news

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    My hope is that the Russians aren’t underestimated should there be another tussle. Their military reputation is really taking a pounding.

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      Russia was overestimated before they attacked Ukraine and underestimated before the Ukrainian counterattack.
      Their strength lies in being able to throw 500000 bodies at an enemy without giving a fuck, and it’s currently working.
      Quantity has a quality of its own.

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        The Surovikin line seems have been quite effective.

        But yeah, Russian soldiers are badly trained and casualties are insanely high. Russia does not have the manpower or equipment to win this war long term if the West continues to supply Ukraine.

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          High casualties are a pointed piece of Russian strategy. They feel that it shows determination and will demoralise the enemy and their allies.

          The problem (silver lining really) is that it’s not having the intended effect. It only manages to demonstrate the urgency of greater and more reliable aid and perhaps even better sanctions sooner or later. There’s a cultural disconnect between us, and it’s driving a lot of bad decision-making.

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            The other problem is that its literally not sustainable. Killing all of your working age citizens in a long drawn out war will end your nation if you lose, and will still cripple you if you win but take a while.

            If they keep this death toll up much longer, russia wont have the feet to stand on its own.

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              Even if they win the war in Ukraine their demography will be fucked. Their population pyramid was already showing serious problems from previous conflicts. And now that a million young adults have fled the country and close to half a million casualties have been accrued, the future of Russia is bleak in deed.

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                The history of Russia has always been rightfully summed up with the phrase “And then it got worse.” So this is really just par for the course.

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        Not just manpower though. They were supposed to be out of weapons like two years ago and handing out old AK’s and sharing those between five guys.

        Instead they seem to be resupplying and the money they’re making on gas sales to China is trucking them along.

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            Of course. Many of their drones seem to come from Iran, namely the Shahed.

            Recently America claimed North Korean rockets were fired on Ukraine.

            The problem isn’t really what weapons they’re using but the fact that they still have weapons.

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    As Ukrainian or at least a former Soviet I promise you they’re not going to rebuild a goddamn thing.

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    How could Hamas do that?

    Edit:

    Authorities did not say what caused the incident.

    The incident took place on Tuesday, when the state news agency RIA quoted the defence ministry as reporting an “abnormal discharge of aircraft ammunition”

    Sounds like an obvious wrong target, or their jet is so unreliable it will discharge accidentally.