Florida’s firebrand surgeon general is calling for use of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines to be stopped.
Joseph Ladapo, M.D., wrote a letter to Robert Califf, M.D., commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and Mandy Cohen, M.D., MPH, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), last month. He cited a preprint study from October, which was not peer reviewed or published in a medical journal, claiming there are “nucleic acid contaminants” in both the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines.
Dr. Ladapo claims, without sufficient backing, that these contaminants can lead to the development of cancer, and damage a person’s blood, heart, lungs, liver, kidney and other organs.
The FDA replied to the surgeon general that there was no evidence the shots posed these types of danger, according to a statement from the Florida Department of Health on Wednesday.
Could yous stop using words like “Firebrand” and use the proper “Attention-seeking”
Yeah. Surgeon General isn’t exactly a position that warrants a “firebrand.” Doesn’t really seem appropriate.
Of course he’s from Florida. What other state would do this?
Also, it’s not like Florida was taking the shot anyway.
Actually, Florida has an average take rate. Floridanas don’t pay much attention to this nonsense. Like this huckster here who double dips the state to the tune of a half mil a year.
They certainly vote as though they do, though. Which is why they have so many of these hucksters.
Florida democrats don’t vote. That’s the problem.
That doesn’t change what I said, though. Not voting is effectively a form of voting. Just choosing “none of the above” instead of choosing one of the options.
Unfortunately it’s typically the least effective choice one can make.
Not voting isn’t even choosing “none of the above”, that would at least be informative as a protest. I could even imagine a system where it’s a meaningful choice, for example if “none of the above” gets the majority of votes then the election is re-run and none of the previous candidates are eligible for the second attempt.
Not voting is choosing “I want what everyone who is actually voting picks.”
I mean, yes, choosing a literal “none of the above” options would be more motive. Typically there’s not that option, though. The point was that people who don’t show up to vote, whether it’s motivated by disinterest or desire to protest the system, are effectively the same thing.
Yeah we do. The problem is that 300k+ people moved here each year during the initial COVID epidemic. The lion’s share of them were GOP symps running away from lockdowns & other mandates. Personally, in my county, Democrats are outnumbered 2 to 1 by the GOP as well as “Independents” now.
Hopefully this migration will have knock-on effects at the voting booths throughout the country.
My sympathies to whatever sane people are left in Florida, but yeah, on a national level this looks like the GOP effectively gerrymandering itself. If GOP voters move from purple states to deep red ones that’s a win overall.
I mean, they had to get the power somehow, and that generally starts at the voting booth.
Hard to blame the current disenfranchised voters for not being able to vote out those already abusing their power. Blaming them shifts the attention away from those abusing their power.
Yes, it makes it hard, but it doesn’t make it impossible. I agree there’s plenty of reasons that people are less able to express themselves by voting… but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible.
And just pointing fingers does nothing to fix the situation. We already know the people in power are abusing it, unless you emphasize actually getting rid of them, nothing will change. Saying it’s impossible to vote when it’s not just makes it that much easier for potential voters to decide it’s not worth the effort and just stay home.
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" He cited a preprint study from October, which was not peer reviewed or published in a medical journal," - he did his own research.
Through a Facebook link, apparently.
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The guy who committed medical fraud? I am shocked!
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/22/florida-joe-ladapo-investigated-covid-report-00084075
What do you call the person who graduates with the lowest marks in med school?
Doctor.
Same thing you call the people that only did it for the money, memorized what they needed, and kept believing their insano batshit “theories”
I know of a person who is adamant that his brother is nonverbal autistic because of vaccines. His job is to administer vaccines.
I know of another cognitive dissonance dumbass who thinks medicine is mostly a ploy to get you to waste your money. He is a nurse.
You’d be surprised at how riddled the system is with idiocy. Thankfully these people don’t have the capacity to climb ranks into positions that have any relevance to decision making.
Yeah, it’s disappointing. There’s no shortage of woo among healthcare workers.
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Phenylphedrine wasn’t recently released, it was just not well studied to be a nasal decongestant because Sudafed was a drug with a novel of evidence that it worked. It was just thought to be the next best thing after the OTC ban because it worked on a a similar mechanism and there was some (old as shit) studies that suggested it may work. No one was running further studies as Pseudoephedrine was just seen as the better drug.
All Alzheimer’s drugs? My grandma was on something which significantly slowed the progress of the disease quite a few years ago.
I’d love to know what she was taking. As far as I’m aware there have been no approved medications that have demonstrated reliable anti-disease activity in Alzheimer’s. We do have some medication that can help mask symptoms for a while, but the handful of drugs that have been approved reportedly targeting the actual disease sit on really shaky scientific evidence and likely don’t actually work.
You’d be surprised at how riddled the system is with idiocy. Thankfully these people don’t have the capacity to climb ranks into positions that have any relevance to decision making.’
Ladapo did.
Yeah in Florida.
His boss wears boots and thinks he doesn’t look like the other cute gay guys.
The entirety of the medical community is laughing at his ass, and I guarantee this little article just shat all over his reputation.
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Wait wait wait. You think the CDC and FDA will even bat an eye at this? If anything someone just filed a complaint with the medical board.
He was appointed by DeSantis in 2021 specifically because he is the only guy with an MD willing to say getting vaccinated was a bad idea. Like literally, DeSantis saw his pro hydroxychloroquine anti vaccine op eds and hired him.
He’s not a “firebrand” he’s an anti-scientific hack. It’s not like he’s out there advancing the field of cancer research. It’s just covid misinformation.
He must be running for office. No one says shit this stupid unless they’re pandering for votes from people dumb enough to support it.
He was appointed by DeSantis in the height of the pandemic, because he was willing to pander antivax propoganda while using his MD as an appeal to authority. He was basically handpicked to be as anti-medicine and COVID-conspiracy as possible.
To be fair, Joseph Ladapo says a lot of stupid things.
Also, why does Harvard output so many garbage humans?
Because they start with so many garbage humans based on acceptance influenced by money/politics/legacy.
A lot of the really prestigious medical schools/residency programs have a reputation for a toxic culture, and this means by and large they attract a larger share of toxic applicants. Their programs are really focused not on training great bedside clinicians, but on training people who will attempt to change fields through research and public policy. Unfortunately, the toxic nature of these programs, and their immense emphasis on publishable output and reputation, likely attract a larger fraction of narcissists with the skills necessary to mask their inappropriate behaviors when needed in comparison to other programs. That is not to say that all Harvard trained physicians are horrible people, I’m sure the vast majority of them are fantastic, but I would be money that Harvard attracts a greater fraction of the kookes than your average midtier medical school.
Stupid. He probably performed brain surgery on himself and screwed up.
Self lobotchomy
Remember the last time we looked at preprint non peer reviewed papers? LK-99 does.
Just as an aside here. The preprint Ladapo is citing, one of the key authors of that paper’s website has their certificate expired. They should really consider getting a professional to handle their site. That really dampens people who are reading the preprint to see what’s actually in it and looking up the various folks involved in it. Like I started looking for guy’s email address and now it’s like “guy c’mon, hire someone to do your site and if someone is actually doing your site, you should get someone else.”
That’s all, I’m still reading the preprint though and getting through it.
Dude’s certificate below:
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Someone sink Florida pls.
Moron says stupid things. This is the quality of people that DeSantis surround himself with.
