• Floon@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    This is why people hate liberals, and why liberals often migrate over to conservatism: no matter how right you are, there’s always someone happy to crap on you for not being right enough.

    Don’t shit on EVs for merely being one of many solutions that all need to be engaged with. It’s not like without EVs, so many people would be rushing to areas of greater density and riding public transit, so your message is not helpful in achieving what you want, and actively angers your allies.

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      11 months ago

      Ah yes conservatism, the famous side of rational thinking and anti-bias thoughts, such as avoiding the perfect solution bias
      Your comment having so many upvotes is disgusting

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        Plenty of people said if Bernie wasn’t the nominee, they’d vote Trump. Puzzle that one.

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      I think both sides are lacking nuance here. If you shit on people getting electric vehicles or just thinking of getting one because that’s not far enough: fuck you. But also, for people that just switched or are thinking of getting one but then see something like this and slam into reverse and say “I’m gonna support ICE cars till the day I die to spite those overly hostile woke liberals”: fuck you too.

      People should be able to take the information in a more nuanced way, and should stop swinging from extreme to extreme which has led to the current fucked state of politics

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      Oh no, some liberals were being mean to me on the internet. Guess I’ll just vote against my own interests to spite them…

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        This is how a lot of people vote. Maybe they aren’t converted right then and there, but it builds up over time. Humans aren’t rational man

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          I don’t doubt that that’s the case, but I’m just pointing out (humorously) the absurdity of someone who is purportedly a principled individual who cares about things like climate change, civil/human rights, equality, bodily autonomy and most importantly democracy changing to the side that is openly against all of those things because people can be harsh and nasty on the internet sometimes.

          Like, if someone really was so flimsy with their morals that they could bend so easily, did they ever really care in the first place? Or were they just looking for an excuse to blame the other side for their fecklessness?

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            You seem confused why people don’t want to agree with you politically when you’re being a dick to them.

            It must be some massive coincidence

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      I shit on liberals mostly because of their notions on ‘altruistic capitalism’. As soon as they purchase an EV, they think they’re out there saving the world and most don’t think critically past that.

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      I really have to agree that it’s posts like this that made me give up on left wing politics, in certainly not right wing but I see no hope for the left until fundermental problems are fixed which I don’t believe politics or media is capable of addressing.

      Further I am absolutely convinced a large portion of the loudest voices on climate change are so obsessed because they desperately want it to be the big doom that fucks up all the impressive things other people are achieving.

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          Yes that’s exactly what I said and exactly everything that went into my thinking, congratulations you’re exactly the sort of binary thinking ideolog that makes any sort of political progress impossible on the left.

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              Again you’re just yelling slogans that have nothing to do with what I said because you’re absolutely incapable of having a reasonable conversation on anything of substance. This is a perfect example of what we’re talking about.