• zephyreks
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    1 year ago

    Take a look at a map of NATO. Now take a look at a map of EU aid to Ukraine. The only real non-NATO members of the EU are, what? Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, and Serbia (and a few microstates)?

    Oh, would you look at that! Guess who hasn’t been providing significant military aid to Ukraine. No guns and no ammunition. (In other news, even China has provided Ukraine with humanitarian aid…)

    This is a proxy war between the US and Russia. The only significant aid from non-NATO states has been from, what, Pakistan (who oppose anything India supports lol), Australia (who are otherwise aligned with the US through ANZUS/AUKUS), Israel (do I even need to say anything?), and Japan (who are obviously aligned with the US)?

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      1 year ago

      So find a single quote of the Latin American countires opposing the text as written had a thing to do with nato. You can’t.

      You do realize the majority of these exact same states (including India, who you listed as supporting the war. What?) have already condemned the war at the UN. So no, it’s not as simple as pro us and anti us. Countires do indeed have interests beyond america or Russia and indeed do have bilateral concerns.

      Just because you can’t see the world through anything but the US lense doesn’t mean the rest of the world can’t. And just because you think Latin America should have every action they take be shaped by their relationship with the u tied states doesn’t mean they think that.

      So unless you can actually put up some evidence rather than your wild conjecture I’m afraid I’m done here.

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        1 year ago

        Where is India’s aid to Ukraine? Words are cheap.

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            1 year ago

            Words aren’t going to save the lives of Ukrainian soldiers.

            India is buying Russian oil and propping up Russia’s resource-based economy. But yes, like China, they aren’t providing lethal military aid.

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              1 year ago

              Because India needs oil. A lot of it and for cheap. India is also buying US weapons and phasing out Russian ones.

              It’s almost like India is a country with its own interests and doesn’t treat the world as one giant chess match between Russia and the US.

              You know. Like Latin America.

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                1 year ago

                In the context of the war in Ukraine? Nobody is saying that the world is, but that the war in Ukraine is. Latin America doesn’t want to get involved in a chess match between the US and Russia… I’m glad we agree lol.

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                  1 year ago

                  The only people framing the geopolitical relationship with the EUas part of this so called chess match is you.

                  You never did present that evidence I asked for by the way. So we are done here.

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                    1 year ago

                    I mean, we’ve already established that the members of the EU that are supporting Ukraine is exactly (somehow) the members of NATO… I’m not really sure what you’re asking for.