• zephyreks
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    1 year ago

    The EU has never been considered a power of the same scale as the US or the ex-USSR.

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      1 year ago

      And yet is much more directly impacted by, and involved in, the situation in Ukraine and you know, it was a direct exchange between those two parties and referencing those two parties and not the US.

      You’ve got a bad case of American on the brain. You hate the topic but can’t change the subject.

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        1 year ago

        I must be forgetting how NATO gets funded…

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          You definitely are since the US only pays about 16% of NATOS budget. Which is a smaller percentage than what the US pays to the UN peace keeping forces.

          You……do know that NATOs budget is not the same things as NATO combined military spending right?

          And also irrelevant since the EU is not NATO. They share members they do not have identical membership.

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            1 year ago

            Take a look at a map of NATO. Now take a look at a map of EU aid to Ukraine. The only real non-NATO members of the EU are, what? Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, and Serbia (and a few microstates)?

            Oh, would you look at that! Guess who hasn’t been providing significant military aid to Ukraine. No guns and no ammunition. (In other news, even China has provided Ukraine with humanitarian aid…)

            This is a proxy war between the US and Russia. The only significant aid from non-NATO states has been from, what, Pakistan (who oppose anything India supports lol), Australia (who are otherwise aligned with the US through ANZUS/AUKUS), Israel (do I even need to say anything?), and Japan (who are obviously aligned with the US)?

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              So find a single quote of the Latin American countires opposing the text as written had a thing to do with nato. You can’t.

              You do realize the majority of these exact same states (including India, who you listed as supporting the war. What?) have already condemned the war at the UN. So no, it’s not as simple as pro us and anti us. Countires do indeed have interests beyond america or Russia and indeed do have bilateral concerns.

              Just because you can’t see the world through anything but the US lense doesn’t mean the rest of the world can’t. And just because you think Latin America should have every action they take be shaped by their relationship with the u tied states doesn’t mean they think that.

              So unless you can actually put up some evidence rather than your wild conjecture I’m afraid I’m done here.

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                1 year ago

                Where is India’s aid to Ukraine? Words are cheap.

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                    1 year ago

                    Words aren’t going to save the lives of Ukrainian soldiers.

                    India is buying Russian oil and propping up Russia’s resource-based economy. But yes, like China, they aren’t providing lethal military aid.