• masterofn001
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    1 year ago

    Let’s not forget: everything you say. Phones have microphones.

    And cameras.

    How many people are dumbfounded or completely unaware when amazon or facebook show you an ad about something you were talking about earlier…

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      This is where you lose people. It’s been proven time and time again that the mics on your phones aren’t transmitting things back without you knowing about it.

      Facebook isn’t always listening in on your conversations. They don’t need to. It’s useless data.

      Voice isn’t how they figure out what you like and are probably talking about at any given moment with other people.

      Here’s a short podcast episode that gets the point across: https://gimletmedia.com/amp/shows/reply-all/z3hlwr

      You could literally physically destroy the microphone of your phone, and you’ll still get ads served up like “they are listening to you”

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        You act like it’s impossible which really comes off as desperation for it to be true. Definitely not impossible

        If they could access those indiscriminately you could guaran-fucking-tee people would start taking it seriously.

        /tinfoil hat

        That’s why they don’t list those things in your app permissions unless it expressly “uses it”

        Zuckerborg probably watches people pee all the time.

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          It’s not imposibile, it’s unlikely, and would be noticeable.

          Dunno how app permissions prove that they are always listening when those permissions are required to access the mic at any point in time, including when you’re using the app and invoke it yourself.

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              Show me evidence that Apple has a backdoor for companies like Meta, that circumvent their normal iOS functionality.

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                  1 year ago

                  None of this is what I was looking for.

                  Meta is plugging in USBs or connecting to people’s accounts en masse to get into people’s encrypted backups? I think not.

                  People keep claiming Meta does this, does that when it comes to microphones. Where is the proof? I haven’t seen a SINGLE piece of evidence to show that Meta is listening to you at all times when you aren’t using the app. I only ever see people’s anecdotes of “it heard me talk about something cause it popped up later”.