Google is going to release new manifest v3. How could it harm uBlock Origin? And will Firefox and Safari become the only major browsers that fully support uBlock Origin?

  • HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net
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    7 months ago

    Geez just use Firefox already. A browser from an ad company is gonna serve u ads. 🥸 And then you don’t have to waste your time on this bullshit

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      I’ve been saying this for damn near 15 years. It’s odd that people migrated from Firefox to Chrome in the first place. Obviously not everyone who uses Chrome did that but I know quite a few people who did and are now talking about switching back. These are people who generally believe independent and open source is the best way to go too.

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        It’s odd that people migrated from Firefox to Chrome in the first place.

        I migrated from Firefox to Chrome years and years ago when Chrome was lightning fast with a bazillion tabs open and Firefox had some memory leak that forced me to reload a couple times a day. I have since moved back and realized all my old problems are no longer a thing, but I can definitely see why some would have made the switch and never tried moving back.

      • drasticpotatoes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Sadly, this is because FF wasn’t a good browser for many for a hot minute. Many websites, particularly ones with media, didn’t work well with it. I was one of the ones who switched during this time. I didn’t use Chrome, personally, but I can see why some chose it as an option when facing the same problems I had. FF has since fixed these issues and I switched back to FF quite awhile ago.

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          Yeah that’s when Google was fucking with the Mozilla Foundation.

          I temporarily moved to Chrome but back to FF as soon as it was reasonably possible.

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        From what I saw. It was more Internet Explorer to Chrome.

        Back in the day Firefox wasn’t as polished as it was now. Think more Open Office than Libre Office.

        All machines had IE and it sucked, crashed but was default. Then I tried Chrome and it was good. Then moved everyone to it since the alternatives weren’t as good.

        Years later, chrome is still good compared to IE, but now Firefox is slightly better. For all intent and purpose it’s the same but some qol features here and there made me move.

        But for everyone else they don’t want or need to move. So until it gets worse than IE they’ll stay.

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      Mozilla is a sketchy company that pays their CEO as much as they get in yearly donations then act like they’re the good underdog guys that survive off of those donations.

      They have giant cash reserves that they refuse to use to make Gecko safer. They pay several senior engineers salaries’ worth of money to political organisations instead.

      They’re just not as successful as Google at being trash.

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        I mean if you can name an alternative that isn’t dogshit, go for it. Sadly, web engines are ridiculously complex pieces of software to build, much less build well, and until something comes along that doesn’t rely on Chromium or Mozilla or WebKit in general, we’re forever going to be someone’s bitch.

        Although maybe your point is just that we need to stop pretending there are any good guy players in this bullshit game, in which case, i agree.

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          Although maybe your point is just that we need to stop pretending there are any good guy players in this bullshit game, in which case, i agree.

          That was my point, yes.

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    I believe some chromium based browsers will continue to support their own flavours of adblock.

    But Firefox is the way to go

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    I find it hard to believe that there’s any overlap on the Venn Diagram between people technologically literate to use the Fediverse and people who still use Chrome. I’m always shocked to see posts like this. For OP, join us

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      Some sites work much better with Chromium. I default to Firefox (LibreWolf), though.

      I can’t imagine keeping myself locked into only one browser. For as long as I can remember, I’ve always used at least two.

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        I always keep chrome installed and updated alongside the other browsers. Sometimes it’s necessary for certain websites

        • Firefox: 90% of my usage
        • Mullvad: for tasks where privacy is extra important
        • chrome: when websites don’t work with the above
        • tyrant@lemmy.world
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          If it doesn’t work with Firefox and a VPN I just don’t use that service anymore. Im not going to go out of my way to use a service that doesn’t support certain browsers. Except for my bank… They win that battle against the VPN

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            My bank actually reccommends Firefox alongside Chrome and Safari.

            Which is pretty much the only thing I can respect about them, sadly.

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              My bank just doesn’t like a VPN which is a little annoying but understandable to some extent

          • OtterA
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            7 months ago

            I open up chrome are when there isn’t an alternative

            Some banking services and authentication for certain Google products that I need for school or work

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      people technologically literate to use the Fediverse and people who still use Chrome.

      Being a technologically literate person, I usually have 2-4 different browsers on my devices.

    • grue@lemmy.world
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      One of my computers is a Chromebook (which I was required to have in order to run my college’s proctoring spyware, and bought before the Manifest V3 controversy was a thing). I’ve tried running Firefox on it inside the Linux virtual environment but it doesn’t work well, and the issue hasn’t been urgent enough to be worth blowing away Chrome OS and making it into a normal Linux laptop yet.

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      I started using Firefox back when it was called Phoenix so it pains me to say this. Firefox pretty much sucks. For a long time, their biggest selling point is it’s not Chrome. It’s noticeably slower than Chrome and, outside of a few nice features, it’s been stagnant for a while. It routinely lags behind and hasn’t really innovated anything in years. The UI hasn’t changed materially since like 2004. Is a tabbed window the best we can do? It was great back then but now we use so many web apps that the tabs are unwieldy.

      A free, open source browser should be an incredible priority. I would put it up there with Linux in terms of importance. Instead of treating the project as important, Mozilla is screwing around with Pocket, a VPN and email masking. What the hell? It’s pathetic. They wouldn’t even be in business at all if they weren’t being paid by Google. The organization is rudderless and it shows in Firefox.

  • MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world
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    Unfortunately, Firefox is the best option right now, and it works rather well, unlike about 5-6 years back when it was horrible.

    I’ll use Librewolf and Ungoogled-Chromium

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    Manifest v3 has been out for a while now, they are just blocking manifest v2. There will probably be a way to fix it, but there is always other browsers like brave that have built in adblockers that block basically anything. While people were worrying about whether they will be blocked from YouTube and ublock was having issues that were soon fixed, brave never got a single pop-up asking to disable your adblocker once. Also you can use some VPN adblockers that work through blocking it from your network like AdAway.

  • Dehydrated@lemmy.world
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    Most filterlists that are used for adblocking will not work with MV3. The allowed number of filter rules is way too low for any meaningful adblocking.

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    Genuine question here, whenever these posts about browsers come up (which is very often) I never see anyone mentioning Opera. What’s the reason for this? I seem to remember it being very popular with the tech crowd a number of years ago, that might be misremembering on my part!

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      Opera is owned by a weird group of Chinese investors, collects your data and sends it to China. They also use crappy marketing practices, and the Opera GX “Gaming Browser” is a fucking joke. And their VPN isn’t even a VPN, it’s just a proxy. Not a company I would trust, especially when there are much better options like Firefox.

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          I thought switching to ff would be painful but the migration tool handles most of the heavy lifting! You will have to sign into most sites again but your saved passwords transfer. Most youll really have to do is just find any addons you use again

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      They used to back in the internet explorer era have the fastest web engine. The reason they aren’t talked about much these days is because they are yet another chromium browser.

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    Unfortunately only chrome has full support for Dragon professional, and Edge can be made to work. The dragon extension for Firefox stopped working and Microsoft, who now own dragon, doesn’t have any incentive to fix it.

    The unofficial supper via the ClickbyVoice extension doesn’t have a Firefox version.

    I would love to hear alternatives that support link numbering and voice commands :)

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    Yes ditch chrome. I myself am using safari on windows and recommend that, very good experience.

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      Chrome is based on Safari (which itself is based on KHTML). They diverged a long time ago, but there’s still a genetic relationship there. Even if Safari for Windows were still a thing and you were serious instead of trolling, that strategy still wouldn’t be as good as switching to Firefox’s actually-unrelated codebase.

      (Also, the real WTF is using Windows in general.)

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        Firefox primary revenue is Google as default search engine, i.e. Mozilla sustainability model is unreliable since it depends on a direct competitor. Mozilla, and thus Firefox, is controlled oposition. Safari, on the other hand, has no such issues whatsoever, and has an independent browser engine. That’s why I recommend Safari, and everybody here should switch to it, and I recommend you as well.