• Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    This needs to be talked about more in the media. And let’s instil a fear in employers if you fire someone solely for being pro Palestine you will end up in the news.

    And let that decision to fire someone who speaks up against ethic cleansing and genocide hurt their business.

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    @theacharnian
    There’s a difference between Pro-Palestnian views and Pro-Hamas views.

    Hamas isn’t even an internationally recognized government of palestine, and recognized by many countries including Canada as the terrorist organization. I still don’t understand why there is some people who refer to two interchangeably.

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      For sure. I will scream fuck Hamas until my voice goes hoarse.

      The problem is the grey zone where it there is no clear line. Is using the word “genocide” crossing a line? Is using a rhetorical inversion of that line from Likud’s 1977 manifesto (“from the river to the sea”) crossing a line? Is “free Palestine” crossing a line? I don’t think so. But the article has examples like that.

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        Calling “from the river to the sea” an “inversion of Likud’s manifesto” is a talking point. Take a time machine and go talk to hard line Likudniks of the past 50 years, you will hear plenty of colorful and distasteful slogans, but not that one. For decades pro-Palestinians have shouted it, rallied around it; they own it, no one else. Just like the Israelis own “we need to delete Gaza” - it is not “an inversion of Iran’s call to wipe Israel off the map”.

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          It takes a very fearful settler mentality to interpret “will be free” as “murder the Jews”. In particular the kind of mentality that would write something like “the establishment of a “Palestinian State,” jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population” (same manifesto).

          On the other hand “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty” is very very explicit.

          Talking points? I don’t know. When someone says who they are, believe them.

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      I still don’t understand why there is some people who refer to two interchangeably.

      The same reason there are people who call anything anti-Zionist “anti-semitic”. Take that as you will, but to me it is a means to scare and silence people.

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      The extremists on both sides (very much including Hamas) can get fucked. Especially since they have effectively worked together.

  • jadero
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    So the McCarthyism playbook?

    The biggest difference I see is that this time it’s running as a mostly decentralized and possibly grassroots initiative. But people are still losing their jobs and possibly their entire careers for opinions and activities that have literally nothing to do with their employment or education or even legitimate constraints on their freedom of expression.

    Let’s face it, Hamas wouldn’t even exist if the Israeli government wasn’t being a big dick about sharing or at least caring.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    According to three Ontario-based lawyers who spoke to CBC News, some employers and institutions have been quick to take action against employees or students, creating an environment in which many are afraid they will lose their jobs or face consequences to their education if they express a political stance in favour of one side — Palestinians — during this war.

    Esmonde noted a Nov. 23 United Nations statement in which a group of UN special rapporteurs expressed alarm at what they say is a global stifling of critique of Israeli government policies or calls for a ceasefire, which they said “have in too many contexts been misleadingly equated with support for terrorism or antisemitism.”

    Last month, according to an official email seen by CBC News, George Brown College in Toronto  put Bashir Munye, a culinary instructor, on paid leave while it investigated complaints related to one of his Instagram posts.

    The last post on his account related to the war, made before he was put on paid leave, uses the phrase “From the river to the sea” and the words “genocide” and “apartheid” to describe Israeli government actions against Palestinians.

    She pointed to a post by B’nai B’rith Canada, a Jewish community and advocacy organization that describes itself as a “staunch defender of the state of Israel” whose mandate includes combating racism and antisemitism, that went up about a week after the protest.

    According to Esmonde, the labour lawyer with Cavalluzzo Law, assuming the employees are not part of a union, they would need to either sue Moxies for wrongful dismissal or make a complaint to a provincial employment standards officer if they wanted to challenge their termination.


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