• BlameThePeacock
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    11 months ago

    There’s about 2000 years of resentment from the Israelis in this situation. You’re not going back far enough in history.

    And why do you think that Hamas would agree to any of what you’ve proposed? They don’t have any interest in “rooting out terrorists” they ARE the terrorists. Their leadership would all end up in War Crime Tribunals. There’s no incentive for Hamas in your proposal, and they control Gaza.

    So you’re saying Israel doesn’t want that, and it’s clear that Hamas doesn’t want that either, so how exactly is it a realistic proposal?

    I’m pretty sure Israel would be happy if the Palestinians (and Islamic militants from other areas) stopped attacking them all the time. They’ve never known peace. They got fucking invaded by 5 different countries at the same time the day after they declared independence in 1948.

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      11 months ago

      I don’t think Hamas or Likud would agree, they would both be tried. It would have to be negotiated without them. I know it isn’t realistic, but you asked what it works require for the attacks to stop happening. In the end, though, Israel is responsible for the apartheid system, so unless steps are taken to dismantle that system, there will never be peace. It will need to be Israel’s choice to start and maintain the process.

      • BlameThePeacock
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        11 months ago

        Who exactly are you going to negotiate with in Gaza if not Hamas? They control the government and the military(militants) at the moment, and have for 15 years.

        I know it isn’t realistic This is the problem with every single call for peace. Nobody has a realistic plan that has any chance of working.

        Israel gave Gaza a chance, in the early 2000s, withdrew everyone including settlers and military, backed right off, and in retaliation Hamas took power and started attacking immediately at which point Israel locked it all down harder.

        Why the hell should Israel be the one to back off first this time? If Israel do back off, and Hamas attacks again, would then Israel have justification crushing them? Or is Israel just supposed to allow attacks with no repercussions until it’s “even”?