What to say to people who say this kinda of thing? Usually I just say “ok then”
Some variation of the below:
Can I have your phone with the messaging apps unlocked?
Can I log into your personal email?
Can I see your tax returns?
Can I set up cameras and microphones in your house?
Can I place a GPS tracker on your car?
It also works with opening up the info to anyone, not just you. That’s one of the key issues, even if a trusted party is accessing the info there’s a chance that a malicious party can get access too. Or the trusted party becomes malicious later (government changes, company changes hands, etc.)
People generally don’t want everything in their home live streamed 24/7. If anything it has the potential for abuse, like if someone knows when you’ll be out of home for a few hours
Insurance companies in some countries give you a discount if you agree to put a tracker on your car…
Or use their app on your phone, which will “detect your driving patterns” and adjust your rates accordingly.
But honestly, even without all that, modern cars already have trackers and Internet connections even without your knowledge. (Mine did a couple of impromptu OTA updates for the media center at the beginning. It also has an SOS button on the roof, which you need to be subscribed to use, but can activate the subscription through the button. This implies there is a GPS tracker, as well as a cellular connection).
Saying you don’t need privacy because you have nothing to hide is the same as saying you don’t need freedom of speech because you have nothing to say
How is Snowden so damn eloquent? He puts everything and anything I ever left here to shame
Because dude was a genius prodigy. Smart people talk the best words.
He definitely, genuinely has the best words
His book was a super great read.
I need to listen to it someday. Im kinda scared to take that pilly-of-a-reality-pill
What’s the title?
“Snowed In”
Cute title. I’ll see if I can find it. Thanks!
It’s called Permanent Record haha this dude is trolling you
Lol you gotta admit, though. That would have been an awesome title.
Permanent Record
“Arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.” - Edward Snowden
Ask to watch them pee. When they say no, ask what they do when they pee that they don’t want you to know about; that is the only reason they could want privacy, right?
Ask to watch them pee.
You went weird real quick.
Ask them to install a camera in their bathroom, and every room of their house.
After all, if they’ve got nothing to hide, they’ve got nothing to fear!
I always ask if they have a curtain. Why have one, when you have nothing to hide? It blocks the view, sunlight…
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That’s a weird question. My curtains make sure I don’t wake up at 5.30am in the summer.
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“Okay, then hand me your phone unlocked and give me as much time as I want to poke around your browser history, files, and photos.”
Medical privacy is a great example.
Consider a situation like Texas right now where abortion went from a normal, legal thing to something that you can be fined and jailed for.
Would such a person be OK with the state having access to their medical records so they could jail or fine them?
People need to understand that much of privacy precautions are “layers” of security against “what if” scenarios that can sometimes be very real.
“Sweet let me see your search history. I’ve always been curious what your taste in porn is”
“well, let me come over to your house uninvited and walk around the rooms looking through your personal belongings”.
I take out a pad and pen, “what’s your bank credentials? Also, your [social media] credentials? I won’t use it against you. Promise. … No? I thought you have nothing to hide?” I put the pad away, and hold out my hand, “let me see you phone. I want to look through your pictures and internet history. … No again? Huh. I guess you do care about privacy.”
I usually ask them for their phone
That’s about all there is that we can say, some people just don’t care about their privacy until a blatant violation of it is right in front of their face, and nothing else except for that would ever make them care.
The energy is better spent on sharing info with people who want to do more for privacy, so that eventually it’s hopefully normalized to care about privacy.
even blatant violations dont matter, they will still use and do the same things without caring, that’s the fucked up part lol. I’ve seen this so many times.
Giving up your right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is like giving up your freedom of speech because you have nothing to say.
Ask them if they poop with the door open.
I guess they think they have nothing to hide, because they don’t know, or don’t care about, how their own information can be used against them.
Because it doesn’t happen in an obviously invasive manner, they don’t think it’s a big deal. It’s harder to associate an abstract concept to actual value.
That’s a choice they can make for themselves, not a choice tech companies and governments should make for everyone. If they want to trade their privacy, and I don’t - fine. All I want is the power to choose and know that choice will be respected.
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If they’re not arguing in good faith my advice is don’t argue. Don’t roll around with pigs - you just get covered in shit and the pigs like it.
I love the selfish/enmeshed subtle agenda to that. I will decide and since I believe I’m covered, I required everyone to be compelled into the same dragnet I bless with my consensual presence. We may all be fish but there’s oxygen in heaven/the sky
