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    Which is how we know it will get worse with the actions being taken

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      I very strongly disagree that taking away the ability for your enemy to make war on you puts you in a more dangerous situation.

      This war has already happened. You can’t un-fuck a chicken. If there was no war, then I think you’d have a lot more ground to stand on here.

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        Every place that is occupied gets more partisan violence.

        This isn’t opinion, it is a lesson learned during every occupation.

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          Gaza was already occupied. Step outside your thought pattern and consider what I’m actually saying.

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            Which further makes my point.

            An occupied territory with partisan violence gets more occupation, which gets more partisan violence.

            Do you work for an occupying force, because that’s the only way occupation makes sense.

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              No I just didn’t bring my personal emotions and biases into this discussion. One merits alone, you have to have a plan for after this war, and “our bad, we’re leaving” is the worst of those options.

              That’s why I said

              This war has already happened. You can’t un-fuck a chicken. If there was no war, then I think you’d have a lot more ground to stand on here.

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                No I just didn’t bring my personal emotions.

                Projection

                “our bad, we’re leaving” is the worst of those options.

                Occupation is not going to solve this issue either.

                Lets wind the clock back to The Troubles. There wasn’t a military solution, it was a diplomatic one.

                Funny how partisan violence died down real quick when Sinn Fein was invited to the table in good faith.

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                  Lets wind the clock back to The Troubles. There wasn’t a military solution, it was a diplomatic one

                  Can’t do this while terrorists govern and removing terrorists from governance is literally what this war is.

                  The Gazan conflict is a substantially more complicated problem than the Troubles.

                  Insults don’t work on me.

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                    Insults don’t work on me.

                    Wheres the insult?

                    The IRA are a terrorist organisation, Sinn Fein was the political party that had deniability. There was terrorism happening in while the negotiations for the situation they are in now were happening.

                    I’m not saying negotiate with Hamas, but I am saying increasing the military presence there while restricting more freedoms is the wrong thing to do as is evidenced by history.