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    There’s no one standalone reason why I think macOS is better than Windows for productivity. Instead of a single killer blow, it’s death by a series of smaller wounds.

    The only real way of describing it. So many little niceties from decades of attentiveness, even if things have been backsliding in recent years.

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      Fantastic description! This is an issue that made it difficult to justify to my management to allow them to allow Macs, but thankfully Apple Silicon was big enough of a game changer to sway the decision

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        Exactly my case. Apple Silicon was a game changer in relation to performance against cost. Was able to replace my old top PC with a mac mini and improve my work on Adobe suite. Impressive. The ecosystem with my iPhone was also an amazing improvement. Airdrop is fantastic.

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          I haven’t used an apple silicon device yet but I understand they’re insane on battery and performance.

          And airdrop is stupid useful in so many scenarios.

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            There’s a nice browser run and open source alternative to airdrop called Snapdrop. It uses web rtc to transmit data from device to device directly and can be self-hosted. I use it to transfer data between my Mac and my windows pc as well as my steam deck.

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        This was the reason I switched to Mac for work related stuff, the performance is insane for most of the stuff I need it to do.

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        Same here. I’m an Apple user since 2008 but had a bad period in my life where I needed to squeeze every € and couldn’t afford a new Mac so I had to build myself a Hackintosh, which was ok at the beginning but missing a lot of things (the special connectivity between devices like airdrop or continuity) but now I’m recovered and bought a Mac Mini M2 and it’s like coming fully home again. No more random panics or wasting time diagnosing errors, and it’s incredibly fast. The jump in performance jumping from a Haswell CPU to a M2 in mind blowing and a joy to appreciate every time I use it

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    this is one of those subjective things that highly depend on what your job actually entails

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          I’m a SysAdmin for a large university and work with our loan services team quite often to get faculty and staff loaner machines for various reasons. They typically stock Win, Mac, and Linux laptops for users. The number of Windows and Mac users that complain about the Linux experience in our surveys is off the charts. The Macs get the highest praise, with Windows right behind it and Linux systems are typically trashed in the surveys. It’s reached a point that team plans to reimagine the Linux to systems Windows and investing in more Macs.

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      I ran arch (btw) for years on my XPS. Just grabbed the new Air 15 and I don’t think I could go back. Considered trying Asahi, but I just don’t see a reason to.

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        I can do all of my Linux development on the M1 MBP using a Fedora VM through Lima. It works pretty darn well.

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    I moved from a desktop PC to a 2015 MBP and I’ve been extremely satisfied with it. It’s nothing short of a miracle how little issues I’ve had with it. It’s fast and everything just work. Was expensive as hell but worth every penny.

    That being said my next laptop is probably not going to me a MacBook but the Framework laptop. Not only do I not like Apple as a company but I also want to support what Framework is doing and the only way to do that is by putting money where my mouth is.

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      I’m a pretty die-hard Mac guy but must admit I love what Framework is doing. That concept plus macOS and Apple Silicon would be the ultimate machine imo

      Yes I’ll keep dreaming lol

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    Anyone trying to batch rename files on Windows should check out PowerToys. It’s a first-party app that adds a lot of useful utilities. One of them is PowerRename, which lets you batch rename files using regex for precise search and replace. It also has the option to preview changes before applying them.

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    This article is ridiculous because it doesn’t mention why these differences exist at all. Like for example Macs don’t have window snapping because Microsoft patented that feature back in the Windows Vista days. & Batch file renaming is a Unix thing. I have always liked Exposé and hot corners and also mission control, but many windows users hate it. It’s entirely subjective and not at all rational. I guess that’s the point of an opinion piece but it really lacks the context that would have made this article informative, just a little research would have been cool.

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    macOS is a great OS, and I’ve used it pretty extensively now. Every time I try to make it my primary OS I end up wanting to go back to Windows soon after. And this is from a die hard Linux advocate. Part of the issue is the cost and lack of easy upgrades for the hardware, the other is I just find macOS to be frustrating for anything but normal “user” stuff. So for me: Linux for servers and hobbyist stuff, macOS if no other option, Windows for just about everything else.

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      It’s basically good there’s choice. I run Linux exclusively on my gaming laptop, with the improvements in Proton I can now game on it as well as everything else such as desktop productivity/photo editing/Rust programming. I also enjoy MacOS (and love what they have done with the Mx series) but can’t afford a Mac and well, I game a lot.

      I can use Windows (My career started with TWM, so I can use anything) but it annoys me so I tend to avoid it.

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    I use both MacOS and Windows.

    I think both have their uses and strengths. I don’t really like putting one down over the other.

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      Same. I usually say “they both suck.” Neither one really meets my expectations for what a desktop operating system should be able to do these days. Every now and then I find myself wishing for some little feature enhancement in Finder and shucks… that’s just never going to happen, is it?

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        What’s an example of an enhancement that you’re looking for that’s not possible? For that matter, what expectations do you have for a desktop OS that they don’t satisfy? Does any OS satisfy those expectations? It seems a bit contrarian to just say they’re all terrible and I feel like the answer is going to be some very weird, esoteric thing that you can only do on a customized Linux install.

        I use my Mac as my daily driver but also have a gaming PC, a Linux machine for testing, and a Steam Deck. I wouldn’t say at all that macOS sucks. Linux is 2nd for me. Windows just gets worse with every release.

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          I’m sorry I don’t feel like taking the effort to get into it in detail. But perhaps the one thing I could point out that’s fairly easy is how the rate of innovation on Mac OS has slowed down ever since iOS took center stage. Most of the innovations are about better integrating with your phone, too.

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      I love building PCs, I like windows for gaming. Mac is pretty much useless there and the PS5 doesn’t have a keyboard or mouse which makes it a different experience. . A pc can be anything.

      But I’d never use windows for work over MacOS. The seamless integration with an iPad for sketching and overall experience is amazing.

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        Gaming on Linux has progressed at light speed in the past several years. I’m in awe at the number of titles that run exceptionally well.

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    One of the things I still love about my 11" MacBook Air is the ease of using multiple desktops (spaces). Even with the tiny screen, I can quickly switch between apps and keep things organised with the trackpad gestures. Drag and drop is also more seamless in macOS compared to Windows.

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      Windows also has multiple desktop “spaces”, but the touch side is way smoother on the mac.

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      I really want a modern 11" (small bezel) MacBook.

      Of course I also want the 15" air so maybe I just like cool stuff. But I think there’s a place for a real ultraportable that’s not trying to kludge any of the awful keyboard cases on an iPad.

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    The last version of Windows I used on a computer I owned is 3.1

    Every time I need to use Windows I’m so insanely lost and have next to no idea what I’m doing, like it’s seriously like I’m 80 yrs old and using a computer for the first time lol.

    It doesn’t help that it feels like it’s vastly different in how the start menu works depending on which version I’m using.

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      I have a gaming PC aside from MacBook so keep my Windows muscle memory mostly up-to-date but what I find is I’m constantly in the back of my head going “Why it this like this? Why are you asking me this? Why do I have to do this?” while using it. It just throws up so many stupid barriers and forces you to do things you shouldn’t have to do.

      That was what drew me to macOS around 15 years ago, that it got out of the way and just let me do whatever I sat down to do. It’s still true today.

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        Part of my lost feeling in windows is also definitely not knowing any keyboard short cuts ( if it even uses them ? ). I can use my Mac and barely touch the mouse.

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    I much prefer MacOS over windows due to the spotlight search. The only thing I wish was added is a detailed audio interface. It’s frustrating having to go to a app to turn it up or down.

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      Yeah a volume mixer that isn’t natively built in is a very missed opportunity. I don’t want to have to pay extra money for software that most other OSes ship with lol

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      There are power toys for windows which add the spotlight search functionality as well as ear trumpet which is amazing for turning specific apps up and down by themselves just from a single menu

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          Yeah ear trumpet I’ve been using for years but somehow never see anyone mention it. Maybe there’s a better tool that I don’t know about. But the spotlight function in power toys is amazing since when I switched to Windows from Mac I missed that a lot.

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      I use Mac for productivity but windows for gaming. I love spotlight on macOS. I recently discovered PowerToys for Windows (made by Microsoft), which includes a little add on that provides spotlight-like function on windows. You can even assign your own keyboard command to it, so I have main assigned to WIN+Space, just like Mac.

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    Kde plasma is working great for me! Just upgraded to bookworm. I’m definitely not going back to a proprietary system.

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    2009, 2015, M1 MacBook Pros. All solid laptops that gave me years of productivity. Touchpad, screen, and form factor are all extremely important for me; I work 75% of the time on the couch with the laptop on my lap (on a laptop pillow of sorts), and having a quiet and cool M1 has been great.

    I don’t need my esoteric linux setup on my laptop. I’ve had to use a Windows laptop for work for two years, and I did not enjoy the random lockups, file explorer crashing, driver notifications and malfunctions, windows filesystem, managed spyware by both microsoft and my company slowing things down considerably… and this was a more expensive engineering grade workstation laptop. If I could trim the fat and make it as stable and bloatfree as my gaming PC, it probably would have been a better experience.

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    I’m glad they mentioned rectangle, I found that app amazing. I have however upgraded to Amethyst for my app tiling though.

    I’m a dev, so if I’m not doing .NET development. I found windows quite limiting. The new terminal stuff is nice but it’s native on a mac. I’m not sure about Docker because that really spins the fans on my 16 Intel Pro.

    Also, things like Spaces and virtual desktops have been pretty sweet for a long time now. Windows, I can’t recall but it’s been a horribly broken PowerToy for so long. I can’t believe people were to recommending it. I think some people were telling me it’s native now, but like, it’s crazy how it wasn’t done properly years ago.

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      Docker uses a feature of the Linux kernel called kernel namespacing, so on macOS (and windows too iirc) it spins up a Linux VM which runs your Docker containers.

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      Docker is not great on MacOS on Apple Silicon. Docker engine uses A TON of memory, around 8 gigs even with no containers running, and you can run into compatibility issues. My office, where we use Docker extensively, upgraded everyone’s workstations to Apple silicon Macbook pros recently. We’ve been less than thrilled so far because turns out one of the images that we use as the base for many of our projects has trouble running on ARM chips. We fixed the problem, but still it was a whole thing. And there’s no guarantee another similar problem won’t pop up in the future either, unfortunately.

      While it undeniably is a fantastic machine otherwise, I honestly think a higher end Dell or whatever that runs Linux would have been a better choice for the job. At least for the developer staff.

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        So your problem has nothing to do with ARM architecture or macOS itself, but on a lack of RAM.

        Docker uses a lot of RAM on every platform, not only on macOS.

        Looks like your company made a bad decision when choosing its hardware.

        We use 16Gb M2 Pro to run docker instances running a copy of our infrastructure (ELK, CH, MariaDB, some maintenance batches, video encoding etc) with zero issue.

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          Docker for Mac has to run Linux in a virtual machine because macOS doesn’t natively support the containerisation APIs. That’s why it takes more memory and runs a bit slower than it does when running natively on a Linux machine.

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          I want to go to Mac, but the cost of additional ram is horrendous, and it’s directly baked in to the soc. Through work I have a few very high end machines, and even the high end ECC ram I’ve put in those costs significantly less on a per mb basis than what’s going into the macs and cannot be upgraded if required.

          The value proposition just isn’t there at the scale I’m hoping to play with. 64gb ram would be wonderful for a machine, but that’s pushing into high end mac territory which adds a couple of extra grand in local currency to the price tag vs an x86 build.

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          Docker most certainly does not use as much memory on Linux. Maybe on Windows, but not on Linux. It’s not an issue with the amount of RAM. I had the same amount of memory on my previous Linux machine and it never even started swapping, whereas the new Macs start swapping soon as my usual dev environment with all the containers and the software and whathaveyous is up. Fortunately the system handles it pretty well, so it’s not very noticeable.

          I mean one of the main selling points of Docker is that it’s not supposed to use a lot of memory to begin with because it’s not a full-on VM. Otherwise I’d never been able to run it on all my puny first gen Raspberry Pis and tiny LXCs. But of course this applies to Linux mostly, because it’s designed to share the Linux kernel. Hence the need to expend extra memory and CPU for compatibility on Windows and Macos.

          Do agree on the bad hardware decision bit though. Ours are 16GB M2 Pros too. The boss, who’s not the most tech-savvy person on the planet, chose those because that’s what he uses. One day we found out that we were getting new laptops and that they would be M2 Pros, and that was it. If I was in charge of the purchase, I would deck everyone out with high-end x64 laptops that have a usable number of IO ports. Would have been significantly cheaper too. Everyone is just alt-tabbing between their IDEs and terminals anyway, so they’d hardly miss the “macos experience”.