• AClassyGentleman@lemmy.ml
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    If you’re only a decent person when consistently threatened into being one, you’re not a decent person. I say we get rid of the system that rewards and encourages the worst parts of humanity.

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      You aren’t wrong, but ultimately actions matter more than reasons. I’d rather have someone acting decent out of fear rather than acting indecent.

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        Bullshit. This is how Christianity works. People fear damnation for their darkest impulses and they don’t hold back because they’ve become a better human and realize why those are dark impulses, they hold back and don’t do it because they’re afraid of sky-daddy.

        I’ve literally had one of these fucking freaks approach a philosophy group I was part of at a local coffee shop. It became creepily more and more apparent, as he kept referring to scenarios like rape and murder, that really the only thing holding him back was fear of Holy retribution. He basically admitted that if he were to become an atheist like us that “nothing would stop him.”

        It was eye opening and fucking disturbing, so no, I don’t agree at all that “ultimately actions matter more than reasons.”

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          Well you just explained that it works. And that’s what parent cares about. There are many actions we take out of fear on average that aren’t extremes. For example paying taxes. I bet that a huge chunk of people who don’t understand the need, from many stripes and for many reasons would stop paying if not for the fear of consequences.

  • Dick Justice@lemmy.world
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    The lady in the article seems well intentioned, but this quote:

    “You guys could be part of the turning point that protects your children, your grandchildren and your client’s children and grandchildren. Isn’t that worth something?”

    makes me think she doesn’t know her audience. *They dont care *

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      They’re probably reading it as “better beef up my security and reinforce the wall around my mansion”.

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    She said many rich people wanted to set up their own educational or health foundations without checking whether there was a need or an existing charity or government-funded programme working to address the issue.

    When the rich only think about charity as a means to further their own name, it’s no wonder nothing ever really gets fixed.

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      Its worse than that. A corporation starts a charity or gives 100k to one. Real nice right? Nope.

      They will:

      1. use that to decrease their tax burden, robbing the commons of their share of taxes to repair the infrastructure their semi-trucks and businesses disproportionately use and tear up, the public educated, pre-literate workforce they have access to, and then…

      2. they ADVERTISE how noble they are, spending millions upon millions in ad buys to tell you what how awesome they are for donating that 100k. They use the guise of what is supposed to be giving with no expectation of return, ie “charity,” as a marketing strategy, and then…

      3. They use such initiatives as lobbying tools to explain why their industry doesn’t need to be taxed to institutionally, societally address the issue that is currently subject to the transient whims of charity.

      There is nothing a publically traded corporation does that isn’t done out of greed, that isn’t calculated to provide more return than dispursment. Nothing.

      Charity with any expectation of return, beyond a warm fuzzy feeling inside, isn’t charity at all, but there is a word for it: a transaction.

  • reverendz@lemmy.ml
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    Why wait for them to act? It’s already bad enough.

    lights torch, sharpens pitchfork

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    Having studied history, I am increasingly convinced that nothing brings about violent revolution like an incompetent ruling class mismanaging difficult times. Revolutions are also pretty unpleasant things through which to live though, so hopefully the times will get easier or the ruling classes more competent.

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      There are fewer ultra rich that need killing though, so it should be easier and quicker this time around, right?

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        I seriously doubt any revolution against capitalism would stop at just the ultra rich, but modern technology would make the killings very fast so that’s either very good or bad depending on how you look at it.

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      I really wish the ruling class lived closer to where I do. I have my pitchfork ready, but no real target or way to get there. In the good ol’ days (whenever that was) the owners lived in the same basic area as the workers.

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      Yeah dude a more competent ruling class fucking us over. That’s definitely what we need. 🙄🙄🙄

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    Our pitchforks and torches aren’t very effective against drone robot mech guardians equipped with machine gun turrets 🔫🤖

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      Yeah bluetooth/wifi and hacking those drones is a much better option.

      Also laser pointers do a pretty good job of fucking up their optics, too.

  • SapphicFemme@lib.lgbt
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    Please! only solution is to abolish capitalism. If Samantha has €7 and bobby has €0. Bobby can’t buy any gumdrops, while Sam can buy some. Pure made up inequality. abolish abolish abolish