• Funderpants
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    People are literally dropping dead in a climate change driven 48C heat wave in India, and right wing people are wondering how many libs they will trigger with their I heart oil bumper stickers.

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      Rolling coal in their emotional support trucks will give them cancer, too. And more prolonged exposure relative to the amount subjected to the rest of us, “to own the libs.”

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      How do you think electricity gets made for your electric car? And how about them batteries. Your position is hypocritical.

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        Thank you for your genuine interest in electricity generation in my local area. The electricity mix where I’m from is a combination of wind, nuclear, and hydro electric. In emergencies we have a backup combustion system that will kick in. My power company publishes a neato dashboard all about it, it’s actually at most 1/6th and usually 1/12th or lower g/MWH CO2 VS coal fired power production.

        But curiously enough, even if it were run entirely on coal, my electric car would still produce much less CO2 over its lifespan, and have the potential to get cleaner as grids improve, since gasoline is so much more CO2 intense and Ice engines are so mature without much more room for serious efficiency gains.

        I’m super glad you were curious enough to ask me such open ended questions, and really happy that my work in this area gave me the knowledge to answer your obviously genuine questions. Now you can be proud to know something you didn’t know a few minutes ago becuase of your open mindedness.

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          Ice engines.

          Are they engines powered by ice?

          Are they engines that produce ice?

          Are they engines powered by internal combustion engines?

          Are they engines that produce internal combustion engines?

          Who knows.

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            It’s the last thing, internal Combustion engine engine, they produce smaller internal Combustion engines on every stroke.

            File photo provided by ice engine producers association:

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          Not even close to true. Propaganda talk. Also, good luck when the power goes out. Just stop the nonsense.

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            Funnily enough, gas pumps require electricity. However, you can generate electricity yourself with solar panels, wind generation, or other methods. You can’t generate your own gasoline.

            The self-reliant durable solution is electric. If the grid is down and you can’t generate your own electricity then your gas heating is down, gas pumps are out, and almost any other gas system is shut down unless they’re hooked up to a generator of some kind (gas, solar, etc.). If you can generate electricity then any will work. If you can’t then electric is out of commission just as much as gas. Once the tank/battery is empty then it’s dead.

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              Solar power isn’t there yet. You’re depending on a future dream for you delusional thoughts.

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                Dude, there are people who already do it. What do you mean it isn’t there yet? How can people be doing it when it isn’t there?

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                Oh, so I guess the 15kWp on my roof that generated 14 MWh last year was just a dream then.

                What went wrong in your life?

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            I remember the last time the power went out bad, hurricane Fiona, I had a full battery while everyone else was in the long lines for gas during the hour or two a day they had the station generator running to keep the pumps working.

            I was fine, thanks so much for caring, I really appreciate the thoughtful concern you’ve shown here.

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        How do you think electricity gets made for your electric car?

        There are clean forms of energy generation.

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        I’m gonna go ahead and believe this post is sarcasm, ok? Because this is exactly the kind of bullshit these morons would argue with.

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            What does that have to do with your initial comment? And have you ever heard of photovoltaics? The fuck does that have to do with emotion?

            I myself still drive an ICE, because I don’t want to afford an EV yet (they’re extremely expensive in Germany). An EV would be ideal for me however. I produce a shitload of energy with the PV on my roof. In the last 30 years I’ve lived here, we had exactly one power outage that was fixed within an hour. We brutally overproduce wind and solar power, EVs can actually help store that surplus energy (think vehicle to grid).

            Maybe you should inform yourself before you make a fool of yourself.

            Unless that was sarcasm again, because that was just such a dumb comment. Jesus.

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              The fuck does that have to do with emotion?

              I’m going to answer on their behalf:

              Notice how balls-to-the-wall mad that person is while telling you to stop thinking with emotion and use logic? That accusation is a confession.

              I’ve actually been seeing this a lot in the last few months from reactionary asshats, telling anyone who’s talking about problems in the world that they’re thinking with emotion and not logic, and actually going so far as to explain the concept in as much detail as their understanding can manage, as if most people haven’t already understood the concept and moved past it to a more complex view of reality where a person exists as a wholistic entity capable of integrating reason and emotion, and is not only able to see what is but the limitations of their knowledge and their imagination of what could be and what should be. Critique of Pure Reason was published in 1781 FFS.

              I have to assume some right wing media grifter has recently put out some big video on the topic and they’re just parroting that, but I have no idea what the actual source of it is.

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                You’re absolutely right! In Germany this type of behavior is even propagated by conservative parties. They’re blaming the green party for acting on ideology. This is “emotion” paraphrased. It doesn’t come as a surprise to me that simpletons adopt this narrative. Right wing propaganda essentially works by triggering emotions.

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              You’re believing propaganda. Simply put, full EV time is not now. Sure if you want it, go ahead. But it shouldn’t be forced.

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                Mate, you ever stop to think that maybe you are the one falling for right wing propaganda? No one here is saying that it’s time for full EV. That’d never work. No one is being forced either. It’s a transition. ICEs will be here for decades to come. It’d be nice to have less of them however. Plus EVs can be a puzzle piece in solving energy storage, so full renewables becomes feasible.

                You’re blatantly ignoring scientific data and logic and are just parroting boulevard magazine level bullshit. Seek help, you’re definitely on the side of ignorant people who are afraid of change.

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      48C

      ::Saudi Arabia walks in::

      SHHHHHHHHH India has far greater problems than 118°F temperature.

      India one of the largest polluters in the entire globe.

      What is the biggest contributor to pollution in India? Vehicular emissions, industrial waste, smoke from cooking, the construction sector, crop burning, and power generation are among the biggest sources of air pollution in India. Feb 18, 2024

      Wait wait wait… lmao climate-nazis also blame… cooking as part of the problem? This is flat earther level embarrassment.