• PerogiBoi
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    29 days ago

    The US system doesn’t work that way. You have a choice between two people. A vote for a third party is a vote not counted.

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      29 days ago

      You’re so engrossed in talking over the other person that you failed to read what they said.

      They said “Run a better candidate against” Trump which IS possible to do by the DNC.

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            29 days ago

            I love that you lot complain that it’s not REAL democracy because the DNC is so sneaky behind the scenes, and then in the same breath demand that the DNC undemocratically appoint someone as their candidate who appeals to you and your fellows, voters be damned.

            And you wonder why everyone thinks of you as fascists.

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              28 days ago

              It’s the duty of the party to nominate an electable candidate is it not? They had a farce of a primary this year, so the only hope left is a hail mary out of the convention.

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                28 days ago

                It’s the duty of the party to nominate an electable candidate is it not?

                Oh, so now you DON’T care about democracy in the party. How convenient, how your ideals change depending on which allows you to scream “BOTH SIDES” the loudest.

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                  28 days ago

                  Democracy in the party flew the coop when we didn’t have a real primary this year. Having a single candidate is not democracy. It’s a rubber stamp oligarchy.

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                    28 days ago

                    Democracy in the party flew the coop when we didn’t have a real primary this year.

                    Just like democracy was destroyed in 2012 when there wasn’t a real primary for Obama. I guess we’ve just been drifting in a sea of fascism ever since.

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          29 days ago

          It’s so frustrating to talk to democrat supporters. You guys should remember how that cost the DNC 2016.

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      29 days ago

      Right, trump vs another candidate. Biden is awful and is the reason why the election is in any kind of jeopardy. But when trump wins in november there’ll be no self awareness to be found, that people were promoting an unviable candidate that no one likes.

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      Maybe the US system doesn’t work that way because people keep screaming at everyone who doesn’t vote for their one party vs the only other. It’s really odd to claim that your vote matters and then yell at anyone who tries to do anything with their vote other than to guarantee their vote for one of two parties. If the argument is to preserve democracy, well, it already looks like we don’t have democracy.

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        It’s because we have a winner-takes-all electoral college system. It encourages domination not cooperation and self-perpetuates because it stifles ideological competition. It’s not merely a social phenomenon.

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          How are we supposed to break out of such a system? Both parties benefit from this system and will never agree to change it. About a decade ago in Canada, the liberal party claimed they’d carry out election reform if they won. They ended up winning big time, but they refused to do what they promised because it would threaten the power structure.

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        28 days ago

        Your democracy is at stake and you are yelling that we should do democracy harder instead of attempting to keep the democracy destroyer out of office. Carry on though and personally insult me like you did in your last comment.

        I’m not American so I don’t have a dog in this fight.

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          You’re not American and don’t have a dog in the fight, but you want to explain the electoral system that I participate in to me. Not sure where I insulted you or yelled (no exclamation point or all-caps/bolded words in sight), so it seems like you’ve completely misinterpreted my post. I didn’t say we should “democracy harder”, I said we don’t have a democracy and that it’s just a facade where people get really passionate about voting for one of only two viable options. Kind of hard to save something that doesn’t exist. Will things get worse under republicans? Absolutely. Will democrats do anything about that? Absolutely not. They’ll keep the office warm until the next time republicans inevitably win back power in this crooked system.