• Lyre
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    6 months ago

    Something to note is that in the Quran god mentions that if you’re starving then none of the rules apply and you can eat anything you need to. The dietary rules seem to function moreso as a test of dedication rather than a inviolable rule.

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      6 months ago

      It goes further than that. If you’re away from home and in a place where halal is not available, or you are a guest in someone’s home and it was not reasonable for you to bring your own food, then eating anything is halal. And even without these things, there is ritual cleansing.

      Intent matters.

      Like there was an intense controversy in Malaysia a few years ago where a traveling “show” called “I Want To Touch A Dog” allowed Malay Muslims to come, touch a cute dog, and then quickly perform 7 ritual cleansing steps. The argument centred on the intent - driving to a place to touch a dog shows an intent to break the rule, and might even invalidate the cleansing.

      All mumbo jumbo of course but it’s interesting at least.

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        That’s super interesting. Honestly I found it fascinating just how chill god was in the quran about a lot of things that i figured were hardline rules. The haj, Ramadan, the prayers all had plenty of exceptions allowed… Its just unfortunate how very not chill god goes on to be about topics like women, slavery, and non-believers etc…

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          It is because “god” is very chill about sins that the religious leadership would often commit.

          Then not chill about everyone’s rights to stand up to, and impact the wealth, power, and influence of the religious leaders.

          Funny little coincidence there. Almost like the rules skew to the benefit of those who wrote them “by the will of god.”

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        6 months ago

        AFAIK, the first part of your answer is correct, the second part I don’t think so. There are some laws in Islam that came down with some of the reasoning behind the prohibition including pig meat being essentially unclean.

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        6 months ago

        you can touch and pet a dog, but slobbering over you yes you need to do the ritual thing.

        Owning a dog is only permissible for guard and shepherding.

        Also the trade of anything with canines is not allowed only adoption (cats and dogs) This was propably to prevent puppy and cat mills which are notoriously horrific.