The most impressive bathroom layout I’ve ever seen was pretty open concept. It seems strange, but let me explain.
Directly off of a major area was basically a hallway, on that hallway was a set of doors. Full sized doors. One right after the other. Each door led to a room which is smaller than most closets, containing a toilet. That was about it for what’s in the room. Of course the usual toilet/stall amenities were available. At the end of this hallway of toilet closets, was a long sink for handwashing.
It was entirely gender neutral, and there was zero risk of rape or any other perceived danger.
I’m sure the closet stall design took up slightly more floor space than your average bathroom stall. Honestly it seems like a small price to pay to have a room all to yourself when you’re doing your business.
I’m sure that adopting this design would get cries from the fragile men about their precious urinals. Honestly, fuck them. The toilet does the job, you animal.
That’s some interesting conjecture there. Clearly you and I know different kinds of fellows.
Some of the guys I know would rather piss outside than go find a toilet. A tree is about as close as you can get to a urinal in nature. I’ve also seen guys wait for a urinal when toilets are clearly available.
Of course, not all men are like this, but I’ve met a nontrivial number who are.
I’ve known guys who had urinals installed in their homes and whatnot. IMO, it’s weird, but they can do what they want.
To be perfectly clear, I don’t believe that represents the majority of men, but an outspoken minority can be noisy enough to push the needle one way or another simply because the majority doesn’t care one way or the other. It happens all the time.
There’s also the mindset of maintaining the status quo at all costs, whether because those people simply do not want to adapt or change, or because they want those that don’t fit into the narrow heteronormative viewpoint. The underlying reasons change, and sometimes people are genuine in their reasoning, but it’s all reasoning to keep with what we have and not change to something that is objectively better.
wait for a urinal when toilets are clearly available
To be fair, I think that’s a misguided attempt at being “polite” or maybe even “fair”, as in they don’t need the toilet, so they’d rather not tie it up in case someone else does need it. But with as little time as it takes to piss, it’s a pretty pointless gesture.
Most of the time when fellows use the toilet when the urinals are full, which does happen quite often, they don’t even fully latch, or even close the door for the stall.
However, the fact that this is true, does not negate that there are a nontrivial number of guys who won’t use the toilet on principle.
Some of the guys I know would rather piss outside than go find a toilet.
I’ve done that a few times. But personally it’s because a urinal is quiet and a toilet isn’t, and I’m rather self conscious about making noise in the bathroom.
Even if you have perfect aim, and a highly focused stream, splashback is a serious factor.
Yeah. I’m also aware of that, and I’m not thrilled about it. But ultimately a urinal, with a bit of focus/attention works just fine for keeping splashback to a minimum.
No matter what you do, you’re gonna have more bacteria on you leaving a bathroom than when you came in. So at the end of the day, if you try to deal with it by washing your hands and minimize it where feasable, personal preferences are fine.
I’m sure that adopting this design would get cries from the fragile men about their precious urinals. Honestly, fuck them. The toilet does the job, you animal.
They started putting in gender neutral bathrooms where I work. They also put in a few urinals, behind closed doors, just like the rest of the toilets. It’s not even an issue (unless you like checking out other dudes’ junk with the current setup).
The most impressive bathroom layout I’ve ever seen was pretty open concept. It seems strange, but let me explain.
Directly off of a major area was basically a hallway, on that hallway was a set of doors. Full sized doors. One right after the other. Each door led to a room which is smaller than most closets, containing a toilet. That was about it for what’s in the room. Of course the usual toilet/stall amenities were available. At the end of this hallway of toilet closets, was a long sink for handwashing.
It was entirely gender neutral, and there was zero risk of rape or any other perceived danger.
I’m sure the closet stall design took up slightly more floor space than your average bathroom stall. Honestly it seems like a small price to pay to have a room all to yourself when you’re doing your business.
I’m sure that adopting this design would get cries from the fragile men about their precious urinals. Honestly, fuck them. The toilet does the job, you animal.
You REALLY overestimate how much men like urinals. Have you ever seen an urinal at anyone’s home? Men would be perfectly fine with toilets.
That’s some interesting conjecture there. Clearly you and I know different kinds of fellows.
Some of the guys I know would rather piss outside than go find a toilet. A tree is about as close as you can get to a urinal in nature. I’ve also seen guys wait for a urinal when toilets are clearly available.
Of course, not all men are like this, but I’ve met a nontrivial number who are.
I’ve known guys who had urinals installed in their homes and whatnot. IMO, it’s weird, but they can do what they want.
To be perfectly clear, I don’t believe that represents the majority of men, but an outspoken minority can be noisy enough to push the needle one way or another simply because the majority doesn’t care one way or the other. It happens all the time.
There’s also the mindset of maintaining the status quo at all costs, whether because those people simply do not want to adapt or change, or because they want those that don’t fit into the narrow heteronormative viewpoint. The underlying reasons change, and sometimes people are genuine in their reasoning, but it’s all reasoning to keep with what we have and not change to something that is objectively better.
To be fair, I think that’s a misguided attempt at being “polite” or maybe even “fair”, as in they don’t need the toilet, so they’d rather not tie it up in case someone else does need it. But with as little time as it takes to piss, it’s a pretty pointless gesture.
Agreed, that would be a pointless gesture.
Most of the time when fellows use the toilet when the urinals are full, which does happen quite often, they don’t even fully latch, or even close the door for the stall.
However, the fact that this is true, does not negate that there are a nontrivial number of guys who won’t use the toilet on principle.
Both things can be true of different people.
I’ve done that a few times. But personally it’s because a urinal is quiet and a toilet isn’t, and I’m rather self conscious about making noise in the bathroom.
I have an option for you.
Sit down.
I’m well aware it’s an option. But it’s not my preference.
Fair enough. There are good arguments for it, mainly about the mess that’s made from not sitting down.
Even if you have perfect aim, and a highly focused stream, splashback is a serious factor.
There’s more, but that’s a big one.
Far be it for me to tell you what to do, or what to like. Have a good day sir.
Yeah. I’m also aware of that, and I’m not thrilled about it. But ultimately a urinal, with a bit of focus/attention works just fine for keeping splashback to a minimum.
No matter what you do, you’re gonna have more bacteria on you leaving a bathroom than when you came in. So at the end of the day, if you try to deal with it by washing your hands and minimize it where feasable, personal preferences are fine.
Have a good day.
I’m not sure how to feel now since three of my friends grew up in houses with urinals. Those were the upper middle class kids in suburban Bavaria.
I’ve never seen one in Portugal. From low to upper class, no one has them at home.
The reason urinals aren’t in homes is because enough women hate them that it affects the home a value.
No, the reason is because no one even thinks about urinals. Many people actually prefer the privacy of a bathroom stall.
I’d like to install a flushless urinal in my home one day. That and a Japanese bidet.
I usually choose toilet instead of urinal
yep this is the way
…and precisely what conservatives are trying to get a ban on
They started putting in gender neutral bathrooms where I work. They also put in a few urinals, behind closed doors, just like the rest of the toilets. It’s not even an issue (unless you like checking out other dudes’ junk with the current setup).