• UnrepententProcrastinator
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    2 months ago

    We know and the point of this post is that voting for one of them and grinding down the other is a clear message of what people want. Rich dude making his friends richer should have been a no-brainer but people keep using slimy tactics like the one you are using to distract the people from that fact.

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      The rich people who pay them both through lobbyists know what the people actually want. We don’t need to vote more clearly. 🙃

      I’m not using a slimy tactic. This is my opinion. Sorry you think that not agreeing with you is slimy.

      I’m a socialist. The Republican and Democratic parties are Siamese twins. They cannot survive without each other. They are completely dependent on the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils. Pretending like the Democrats actually cared about you or will do the things they say they will is an understandable coping mechanism for our situation but it’s not real. 🤷

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        One is moving the Overton window farther to the right. And it’s not like the other one is monolithic. They are forces within trying to do good but they have to negotiate with the institutions in place.

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          Yep it’s a ratcheting effect. The Republicans moves us to the right and the Dems don’t move at all. Together they shift the Overton window to the right over time. If the Democrats weren’t in on it they would move the Overton window to the left when they come into power but they never seem to. Do you know why that is? It’s because they are paid by the same ultra rich people to achieve the same agendas. The rest of it is a spectacle to keep the powerless fighting amongst ourselves.

          Also edit/add: love your user name.

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            I disagree. If the vote was clear towards the available left instead of a lack of votes, it would have an effect on the parties. It’s the thinking within the democrats that they need to appeal to the right in some way because they vote way more than the left right now.

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              I mean you’re free to disagree and think what you want, but it seems like the evidence points very clearly in the direction that the Dems have no intention of doing the things they say they will do.

              You can believe it’s just a coincidence and that if you vote harder, they’ll do the things you want but history doesn’t seem to agree. 🤷

              Regardless of how we get there, I hope we get to a future where the US can actually have good leftist policies. Good luck ✌️