Why are we continuing to use biased language?

  • folkrav
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    2 months ago

    I’m genuinely confused as to why one would need “wiggle room” for anything, who we need to “win over”, and what is that “side” you’re referring to.

    Movements as large as feminism have plenty of internal disagreement. There’s no party line, no code of conduct, it’s a bunch of people fighting over similar principles. Do you agree with literally everything from every movement or political allegiance you associate with?

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I don’t want to be part of the feminist movement because I vehemently disagree with some of the things feminists do. I don’t want us to be called to task for those things, or have to explain them or implicitly support them. I don’t want to have to say “we” when talking about feminist theories or actions.

      • folkrav
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        2 months ago

        I still genuinely don’t understand how this is any different than basically any other ideological affiliation.

        • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Which is why you should choose your affiliations carefully, especially for a fledgling movement that is still finding its ideological footing. I think men’s lib is something that should be seen as closely aligned with, but distinct from, feminism.

          • folkrav
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            2 months ago

            The men’s liberation movement ranges back from the 60s, developing pretty much at the same time as second-wave feminism. The movement as an official legal entity isn’t a thing now, but it used to be openly pro-feminist. The men’s right movement literally rose from a chunk of the liberation movement that left because of exactly this.

            • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              And then we abandoned it to the Andrew Tates of the world. Because it threatened feminist moral supremacy.