• WamGams
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    3 months ago

    I would start with Hamas with accepting the cease-fire.

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      2 months ago

      Hamas has offered a ceasefire since day one. Israel refuses because they want to commit Genocide.

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        2 months ago

        Why does Hamas keep rejecting the cease fire in negotiations?

        If you trust the words of terrorists, you are likely to get burned, and I would be careful, because sometimes the burning is literal.

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          2 months ago

          What? Hamas didn’t reject ceasefires. Unless you are referring to israel wanting to hold a small 6 week pause in exchange for all the hostages and then continue their Genocide. Surely nobody is stupid enough to take that moronic offer seriously. Especially because israel would violate the it directly as they have already done during the previous one.

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            2 months ago

            So wait… you started with the position that Israel hasn’t offered a ceasefire, to Hamas would be idiots if they accepted a ceasefire.

            Quite impressive rhetorically, but your rhetoric is getting innocent Palestinians killed.

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              2 months ago

              A 6 week “truce” and a real ceasefire are two entirely different things. Hamas has offers a real ceasefire. Israel always rejects it

              If israel offers a 5 minute “ceasefire” in exchange for all the hostages are you enthusiastically going to praise them as well?

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                2 months ago

                It’s a shame neither Hamas nor their online supporters care enough about the Palestinian people to accept conditions for a ceasefire.

                40 hostages to end a genocide? The fact that you guys are refusing such a deal makes me think the extinction of the Palestinian people is more your guys’ goal than Israel’s at this point.

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                  2 months ago

                  What does Hamas have to do with israel committing Genocide on Palestinians?

                  Are you endorsing israel using collective punishment on innocent civilians as leverage?

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                    2 months ago

                    If 40 hostages is all it takes to save the Palestinian people, then I would move mountains to supply that if I was in your camp.

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      2 months ago

      So the genocide is all Hamas’s fault. Gotcha’.

      No wonder you get downvoted everywhere you post. You seem like an absolutely abhorrent individual.

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        2 months ago

        You asked me how to end it, I told you.

        But being pro-genocide of the Palestinian people, neither Hamas, nor their supporters (paid or otherwise) have an interest in seeing this end.

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          2 months ago

          So just surrending to the genocidal maniacs is the best way to stop the genocide.

          neither Hamas, nor their supporters (paid or otherwise) have an interest in seeing this end.

          So Israel could completely subvert Hamas’s plans by simply refraining from killing the children, women, civilians, journalists, aid workers, then allowing the aid convoys in with their food so people aren’t starving any more, rebuild the health care infrastructure they destroyed, liberate the children and civilians they are holding captive under military tribunals, returning stolen land to the Palestinians and tear down the apartheid apparatus. How could they lose with that strategy? Seems like a win for everyone involved, and you can defeat Hamas along with all the other benefits!

          For some reason, I don’t think the genocidal maniacs in Israel want that solution.

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            2 months ago

            Pro-Hamas drivel and I’m not interested in a conversation with somebody whose only goal is pushing both anti-Palestinian and anti-Israeli propaganda.

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              2 months ago

              So I imagine you think Israel is actually treating the Palestinians with respect and dignity?

              Best that you scamper away from this little conversation. I think everyone sees you are part of the problem with Israel.

              Fuck Israel.

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                2 months ago

                As somebody very interested in helping the Palestinian people get respect and dignity from all their neighbors, I look forward to Qatar cutting funding of Hamas (and getting the money to the Palestinian people directly).

                That money is going to be needed to rebuild, and more importantly, start a provisional government.