Good that it’s fedi, bad that it’s threads. They definitely have the resources to run a government Mastodon instance, but no let’s stay beholden to the tech companies 😑
And none of them appear to have joined Bluesky yet, a competing decentralized social network running on its own AT protocol that recently opened general signups.
Eh, from what I could gather from both specs ATProto does address some shortcomings of ActivityPub, so the idea has some technical merit. While a lot of the current Fediverse seems to have settled on AP, it’s not like it’s the be-all and end-all of federated protocols either.
Maybe you’re just talking about the company behind it?
I believe, people are mostly annoyed that Bluesky started yet another (half-baked) standard, rather than throwing their weight behind ActivityPub.
This would be fine, if they were decidedly a for-profit company, but their whole branding is that they want to benefit humanity.
It’s also weird that the former CEO of Twitter is involved.
The guy could have pushed Twitter into that direction, but apparently, he needed a separate project to have this change of heart.
Like, I don’t know, they’ve got some things that look alright:
They’ve open-sourced some things.
It’s legally a Public Benefit Company.
They’ve got the creator of XMPP on board, so that at least makes it credible that they genuinely want to come up with a better protocol.
Their CEO is a techie.
But yeah, I’m still worried, it ends up being a bait-and-switch. Make it all look good for now and once enough users have signed up, slowly transition to just becoming yet another Twitter.
They also have Paul Frazee, who is the Beaker Browser dude and one of the Secure Scuttlebutt dudes. And also whyrusleeping, one of the IPFS dudes. So if they manage to enshittify it won’t be because they forgot to hire enough “Wizard Utopians” with decentralization experience.
It’s run by Jack. The same Jack, founder of Twitter that was at the helm while Twitter went to shit before Musk got it. I know Musk era has been really bad, but it was getting really bad under Jack. I wouldn’t trust a social network run by him or Musk or Zuck.
Ah it’s Threads…
Good that it’s fedi, bad that it’s threads. They definitely have the resources to run a government Mastodon instance, but no let’s stay beholden to the tech companies 😑
good.
I’d rather have them on Bluesky/AT than Threads, to be perfectly honest…
Neither is good
Eh, from what I could gather from both specs ATProto does address some shortcomings of ActivityPub, so the idea has some technical merit. While a lot of the current Fediverse seems to have settled on AP, it’s not like it’s the be-all and end-all of federated protocols either.
Maybe you’re just talking about the company behind it?
AT does have some advantages, but I strongly prefer the whole philosophy behind AP.
And yes, bsky doesn’t really inspire me with confidence.
Agreed. Of all the mainstream Twitter successors, I definitely think Bluesky is the least bad.
Whats wrong with bluesky? I hear this general sentiment about it but have never even looked at it.
I believe, people are mostly annoyed that Bluesky started yet another (half-baked) standard, rather than throwing their weight behind ActivityPub.
This would be fine, if they were decidedly a for-profit company, but their whole branding is that they want to benefit humanity.
It’s also weird that the former CEO of Twitter is involved.
The guy could have pushed Twitter into that direction, but apparently, he needed a separate project to have this change of heart.
Like, I don’t know, they’ve got some things that look alright:
But yeah, I’m still worried, it ends up being a bait-and-switch. Make it all look good for now and once enough users have signed up, slowly transition to just becoming yet another Twitter.
aaah ok yeah that makes sense.
Also, I love that I was downvoted for even asking why I should hate another website instead of blindly hating it. Never change reddit 1.3
No its betterthanreddit.com
Nailed it
They also have Paul Frazee, who is the Beaker Browser dude and one of the Secure Scuttlebutt dudes. And also whyrusleeping, one of the IPFS dudes. So if they manage to enshittify it won’t be because they forgot to hire enough “Wizard Utopians” with decentralization experience.
My understanding is that they made their own protocol (not ActivityPub), and they maintain control over it. It’s bad in a different way than Threads
As for what it might do differently/ better, here’s a past post
https://lemmy.ca/post/5816863
It’s run by Jack. The same Jack, founder of Twitter that was at the helm while Twitter went to shit before Musk got it. I know Musk era has been really bad, but it was getting really bad under Jack. I wouldn’t trust a social network run by him or Musk or Zuck.