• cygnus
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    9 months ago

    ban it because it’s fucking awful for society.

    Lots of things are awful for society — fast food, conservatism, detached housing. I agree that TikTok is generally detrimental to society but I think banning it is going too far, unless we can definitely established that it’s being used by the CCP as a psyop.

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      We’ve mitigated some of that stuff though; with fast food we’ve required calorie counts to be displayed alongside the menu items, which allows you to make an informed decision, even if it’s a bad one.

      With TikTok there’s just being forcefed without knowledge of how any of this black box algorithm bullshit works. It’s like going to McDonalds and being able to have unlimited hamburgers of infinite uniqueness and getting unhealthy in the brain.

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        With TikTok there’s just being forcefed without knowledge of how any of this black box algorithm bullshit works. It’s like going to McDonalds and being able to have unlimited hamburgers of infinite uniqueness and getting unhealthy in the brain.

        You can replace “TikTok” here with any closed-source algorithm-driven social media platform, including YouTube. You could probably even make that argument about search engines too. Hell, if you really want to stretch it, even newspapers and radio could get lumped in there, since we don’t see the decisions that lead to what gets published and how it’s presented.

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          9 months ago

          The thing is, none of those algorithms have to be black boxes. They could be published—it’s just that businesses don’t want to, and so far, no government has chosen to force it.

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            Sure, but now this no longer has much to do with the original topic. What you’re suggesting is that any software algorithm has to have its source code shared, and any media company needs to explain why it publishes what it does, and not other things. That goes far, far beyond TikTok.

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              9 months ago

              That’s because banning Tiktok alone is like trying to hold a gaping wound together with a band-aid. We need to force all social media companies to act like good citizens if they want to remain in the Canadian market. (Yeah, I know, not going to happen.)