Comments like this make it clear you have no idea how bad it is in the poorest states, and delusional if you think a system designed to extract the maximum value from each consumer means health care is going to cost you less. I can only assume from you’re statement that you aren’t making 6 figures or more, so you likely will see worse healthcare under a private rather than better. Poverty is twice as high in America, and three times as high in Mississippi, the poorest state.
Housing is also a serious issue, and is affecting far too many people, but the indications are it is just as bad in America.
I don’t think adopting their policies are going to improve our state.
I do. I lived down south frequently. Even the Globe and Mail was decrying Ontario bring poorer than Mississippi and Alabama recently. Only person here doesn’t know what goes on is you. I’m not patriotic and am tired of people who are to the point of wilful blindness. You assume a lot trying to blather a response. Our healthcare is shit and costs people who make under a hundred a year more in tax than insurance would, despite all the horror stories our media loves to push, that are nothing but (very effective) propaganda.
Having lived in several different countries with both public and private healthcare, I can say with confidence that privatization is the death of a healthcare system.
Health for profit makes everyone’s care worse except for the really rich, who still end up paying more under that system than they otherwise would have.
Even something like government reimbursemrnt for privatized healthcare means public health care suffers, as public institutions now have to compete with higher salaries paid by private hospitals, slowly eroding the system from the inside out.
There’s no such thing as cheap healthcare, but public systems are a hell of a lot better at keeping it affordable and accessible.
I think you’re severely exaggerating. Also, the main reason it’s not in the greatest place right now is mainly because privatization continues to slowly chip away at it. Conservative governments (and even liberals, to a lesser degree) are trying to degrade service so they can sell it back to you at a much higher rate. We certainly do need to do better in having enough family doctors, and cutting down ER wait times, but for big problems that have solutions, we still do a very good job.
Case in point, a family member of mine recently underwent spinal surgery, and I have to say once the system realized there was a reasonable probability of success it hauled ass to get them in ASAP. This surgery elsewhere would have left my family member essentially destitute. Instead it cost us literally zero dollars above the standard tax cost of healthcare.
Dude, there’s areas down there where they have open sewer canals filled with shit between houses and there’s like one whole doctor in a county. Yeah, a rich white person in Mississippi is probably better off than a poor Canadian. Most Mississippians aren’t rich.
Our healthcare is shit and costs people who make under a hundred a year more in tax than insurance would
Canada spends less per-capita on healthcare than America by a good margin. I’m not sure where you got this, all that comes up are political think-tanks, but that suggests the per-capita payment would be lower even before the private insurers take a cut.
that are nothing but (very effective) propaganda.
For who? Nobody makes big money off of public hospitals. Doctors and nurses make just enough to keep them there, administrators at least where I live are few and far between, and all are under-resourced and overworked.
Tax cuts for the rich is the opposite of what you’re talking about. We need more taxes on the rich. The only way pollieve can sell that is by cutting a few bucks off of everyone’s taxes. It’s a horrible deal.
Good. I’m tired of everyone being poorer than the poorest state and not getting fuck all for our taxes.
Comments like this make it clear you have no idea how bad it is in the poorest states, and delusional if you think a system designed to extract the maximum value from each consumer means health care is going to cost you less. I can only assume from you’re statement that you aren’t making 6 figures or more, so you likely will see worse healthcare under a private rather than better. Poverty is twice as high in America, and three times as high in Mississippi, the poorest state.
Housing is also a serious issue, and is affecting far too many people, but the indications are it is just as bad in America.
I don’t think adopting their policies are going to improve our state.
I do. I lived down south frequently. Even the Globe and Mail was decrying Ontario bring poorer than Mississippi and Alabama recently. Only person here doesn’t know what goes on is you. I’m not patriotic and am tired of people who are to the point of wilful blindness. You assume a lot trying to blather a response. Our healthcare is shit and costs people who make under a hundred a year more in tax than insurance would, despite all the horror stories our media loves to push, that are nothing but (very effective) propaganda.
Having lived in several different countries with both public and private healthcare, I can say with confidence that privatization is the death of a healthcare system.
Health for profit makes everyone’s care worse except for the really rich, who still end up paying more under that system than they otherwise would have.
Even something like government reimbursemrnt for privatized healthcare means public health care suffers, as public institutions now have to compete with higher salaries paid by private hospitals, slowly eroding the system from the inside out.
There’s no such thing as cheap healthcare, but public systems are a hell of a lot better at keeping it affordable and accessible.
@ZC3rr0r @John_McMurray
There seems to be a lot of different ‘definitions’ for private healthcare and public healthcare.
The ‘definition’ seems to flip flop front nation to nation.🤔
You couldn’t make health care worse than it is now. Don’t get sick in Canada
I think you’re severely exaggerating. Also, the main reason it’s not in the greatest place right now is mainly because privatization continues to slowly chip away at it. Conservative governments (and even liberals, to a lesser degree) are trying to degrade service so they can sell it back to you at a much higher rate. We certainly do need to do better in having enough family doctors, and cutting down ER wait times, but for big problems that have solutions, we still do a very good job.
Case in point, a family member of mine recently underwent spinal surgery, and I have to say once the system realized there was a reasonable probability of success it hauled ass to get them in ASAP. This surgery elsewhere would have left my family member essentially destitute. Instead it cost us literally zero dollars above the standard tax cost of healthcare.
No. I’m not. People pay taxes all their lives and then end up having to go to Rochester and pay anyways if they want to live.
It’s amazing that you’re allowed to just spout misinformation like this. Less educated people might believe you.
Don’t get sick. I’d hate to hear you had to remember saying this.
I’ll try to remember you when I don’t go into crippling financial debt for stubbing my toe.
Dude, there’s areas down there where they have open sewer canals filled with shit between houses and there’s like one whole doctor in a county. Yeah, a rich white person in Mississippi is probably better off than a poor Canadian. Most Mississippians aren’t rich.
Canada spends less per-capita on healthcare than America by a good margin. I’m not sure where you got this, all that comes up are political think-tanks, but that suggests the per-capita payment would be lower even before the private insurers take a cut.
For who? Nobody makes big money off of public hospitals. Doctors and nurses make just enough to keep them there, administrators at least where I live are few and far between, and all are under-resourced and overworked.
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Which part is factually untrue? Here’s Huffpost on the open sewers, and here’s the relevant UN report.
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Tax cuts for the rich is the opposite of what you’re talking about. We need more taxes on the rich. The only way pollieve can sell that is by cutting a few bucks off of everyone’s taxes. It’s a horrible deal.