• PeriodicallyPedantic
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    3 months ago

    Like… I agree they’re bad. But mostly because people are just stealing little snippets of cultures they know nothing about, just to make their kids names unique.

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with a unique name, but don’t make a mockery of another culture in the attempt.

    But probably avoid names that rhyme with dirty words…

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      3 months ago

      idk, i think it’s productive to make fun of names from time to time, i think we attach to them too much. It’s definitely too much to make fun of people with bad names though.

      There are definitely a lot of other names in other cultures, but i would need some genuine context before hand. Otherwise im just going to assume it isn’t a real name, because people have a weird propensity to just fucking lie all the time for some reason.

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        3 months ago

        That’s reasonable. Unfortunately the kid (and maybe even the parent) doesn’t know. They just saw it somewhere and copied it. Like all the “eigh” instead of “ey” is Celtic, but the folks naming their kids probably don’t even know that. As a result they make all Celtic names look dumb by association. That said, I love a good Celtic name, so I might be one of those people who’d do it 😅

        You’re right though, people take names too seriously. As long as a name isn’t gonna rhyme with something nasty, it’s fine.

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          3 months ago

          i genuinely cant imagine putting that much effort into naming someone only to completely fuck it up and for them to be stuck with a shitty name, or at least having a shitty name at one point for the entirety of their life.

          Literally just stick to the normal names, pick one that people aren’t using at that point in time, or one that they are, literally who cares. Bonus points if you use the most common generic name because it provides slightly more anonymity.

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            3 months ago

            You can’t imagine someone putting in that much effort.I can’t imagine why someone would be so passionate about making fun of someone else’s name.

            Like… you’re saying “they might get made fun of” but youre the one making fun of them. Just dont. Idky, but it’s the people who are making fun of kids who are the most concerned that people will make fun of kids.

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              3 months ago

              i mean look, if you dont want to put effort into your kids name, that’s fine, just use a name. Almost everyone does it. If you want it to be unique though, it better damn well be a good one.

              I’m not explicitly making fun of people with bad names, i’m just saying that in my opinion, they’re bad names. That should mean nothing to anybody. That’s like the equivalent of me telling you that you use your brain wrong.

              Another part of the problem here, is that names are somewhat explicitly tied to identity, which im sure people will love to yell at me about, like the people with weird names who get shit on have learned to deal with, much like everyone else with a weird name. It just doesn’t matter.

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                3 months ago

                Damn well better pick a good one? If you don’t then what? Some loser on the internet makes fun of you or your kid? You think the kids are teasing each other when all their names are like this?

                FWIW I think these people did put effort into these names, and in their bubble/micro-culture (which may not be the same culture from which they got the names), these names are great. Making fun of names is like making fun of clothes; at best it makes no difference and at worst you ignorantly insult someone’s culture and heritage.

                I kind of agree wrt some of these names, which likely make a mockery of someone else’s culture - but it’s up to that culture to decide if they think it’s a mockery or not.

                So you’re free to do call these names and parents stupid, but then people like me will be there pointing out that, unless you’re from one of these cultures, you’re at least as stupid for making a stink about it.

                But like you said, a mountain of a molehill on both sides.

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                  3 months ago

                  FWIW I think these people did put effort into these names, and in their bubble/micro-culture (which may not be the same culture from which they got the names), these names are great. Making fun of names is like making fun of clothes; at best it makes no difference and at worst you ignorantly insult someone’s culture and heritage.

                  i mean yeah, i could name my kid rape, because if i ever had a kid, it would be because i was raped. That would be a very clever and apt name. But also a completely and utterly shit name. The name is an intrinsically outwards facing property, you must both consider it’s meaning to you, your family, and the world, carefully. It’s a balance of all three.

                  I generally don’t think culture is that significant of a factor, the primary aspect that matters is geographical region. You either have that name there, don’t have it there, or it’s becoming a thing there, or fading away. Usually, if it’s becoming a thing, and it’s culture related, that’ll be immigration. Which tends to make it pretty apparent. It’s different on the internet of course, i have no idea what source that list of names is from, but we also have no idea whether that’s even real. We have no idea whether the tweet is from even exists. We know nothing about it, so it’s safe to assume nothing about it, since we’re in a vacuum.

                  I think you’re free to name your child whatever you want, but i also think you’re free to be made fun of relentlessly for naming your child a bad name.

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                    3 months ago

                    You’re policing what makes a “good” name, which is just such a dumb thing to do. Like being style police.

                    We’re not talking about naming kids after monstrous acts, we’re talking about adding a couple extra letters to their name. Get a grip.