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    You know, Jesus hung out with gentiles and lepers and the poor and the disadvantaged. People not like him.

    You know who hung out only with their own? The Pharisees and Saducees that had him crucified.

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      Jesus’s crew is often described as “sinners and prostitutes”. He died next to two thieves.

      As an excommunicated Catholic, let me tell you about some of the stuff I had to learn in theology. There’s this parable of a wedding party in some gospels, where a rich guy holds a wedding, all his friends fail to RSVP, nobody comes, and so he invites in people off the street. That parable is taken as meaning: even though God was originally a god of the Hebrews, some subset of those chosen people betrayed God in some way known only to the original audience of this sermon two thousand years ago. So now this god was going to be a god of everyone, and the new Christians were the metaphorical people invited in off the street.

      If this Mark Burns idiot had ever learned even a bit of Christian theology, he would know that associating with outsiders is encouraged, especially associating with [people consider to be] sinners. He is quoting an Old Testament text, which is thoroughly overridden by New Testament text.

      He’s also citing it wrong – it’s “Psalm 1 1:3” not “Psalm 1-3”.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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        His view is hardly unique. I was constantly told both of these things growing up in a fundamentalist Christian church. I watched as more than one friend burned their music collection, refusing to let me have it because they’d be negatively influencing me.

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          Yeah I’m a different excommunicated catholic and yeah a ton of Protestants don’t understand anything about Christianity. It’s not all of Protestantism, plenty like the Quakers know what’s up. But there’s a strong strain in Protestantism of folks like fundamentalists who just seem to Bible bash and do selective reading of the worst parts, who think that its possible to fully believe every word is literally true as though this Jesus fella had a revolutionary idea of speaking metaphorically and that literal interpretations of every word of the Bible doesn’t get you with the most self contradictory mess.

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        Why would they use a rich guy as an allegory for the lord, tho? It’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven, so why are the Hebrews and elohim the rich people in this allegory?