There are many cultures around the world that are suppressed by majoritarianism. They have to face challenges like forced assimilation, language discrimination and refusal to acknowledgement of their unique identity. In fact, many cultures have been identified by UNESCO, that will soon cease to exist - either that they’re vulnerable, or completely extinct. How do you, as a minority, feel, knowing that your entire identity will cease to exist in a few decades? Do you have a sense of camaraderie towards other minorities from other parts of the world, say, the Ainu people, or the Brahui pastoralist?

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    So you’ve taken to insults in other languages. I think that says it all. Though I think you forgot google translate exists.

    Don’t forget, just learn Ukrainian. It’s not that hard. And so many people are bilingual, so it’s good for you. (See how you refuse to engage on that scenario and I just use all your arguments against you. To which you have no reply, only insults lol. And of course no reply to my other points either.)

    Cheers.

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      He has a point that if he has to learn your language, it makes sense that you have to learn his. You are not better or worse.

      Also from my little understanding of French there are no insults there.

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        Already covered:

        So you speak French and work in Quebec. Fine. Why do I need French in the prairies? Do you see how this goes? The demand for English is market demand because it’s the dominate language in Canada, the US, UK, and the international language of business and science. The vast majority of demand for French in Canada (outside of Quebec) is an artificial construct forced on the rest of the country. It’s completely artificial. There’s no natural demand or desire. But it’s forced on everyone and on to job requirements. You’re trying to confuse it with all these other things trying to make it sound like ‘both sides’.

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          Do you choose market mechanisms everywhere or only where it gives your side advantage?

          Also one would think that job requirements are a result of market demand too.

          And if it’s state jobs, then that’s because people you work for speak English or French, and you have to be able to communicate with them in either English or French if they so desire.

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            Funny because Quebec people love French requirements because it’s their advantage. That’s why he won’t entertain the thought experiment of having to learn Ukrainian, because he has no advantage there. If I spoke Ukrainian, uni or bilingual, advantage or not, I know it would be bonkers to force Ukrainian on the rest of the country.

            No, the job requirements are because French is forced onto the country. It’s artificial. That’s the whole point.

            There are very very very few French speakers West of Quebec. So no there are very very very few French customers if we call it that. The demand isn’t there. Again it’s artificial. That’s the whole point of what I’m saying. It’s an artificial construct.

            As I said at the start, in BC there’s more market demand for Mandarin than French, uni and bi. But the freaking premier got crucified simply for pointing that out.

            Nor is it just government jobs as I said. It’s all jobs, in every field, even school applications, it’s everywhere. All artificial.

            Really I covered everything you just asked. You’re just ignoring it, so if you continue on ignoring I’m not going to bother responding.

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              But the freaking premier got crucified simply for pointing that out.

              Which is the same as demand.

              Really I covered everything you just asked.

              I’m sad to say it, but you have reading comprehension problems. Maybe that’s my bad English, but not sure I could take complaints in that regard seriously here.

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                Which is the same as demand.

                What? In BC the demand is for Mandarin. There is no demand for French. But French is the language that’s required in many positions in BC. I have no idea what you’re trying to say. Ditto for your second part.

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      How privilege must you be to cry about seing french on your cereal boxes. This is beyond pathetic. I’m starting to think it’s not that you don’t want to learn french, but you just lack the capability to do so. I mean how come the vast majority of kids in QC are able to learn english in primary school, , most immigrants can speak 3 or more langague, but english canadian are thought french for years but can’t even have a basic conversation. That’s strange. Also, calling french (an official language of your country) “an other langague” show your how colonialist your mindset is. Typical Canadian shit. If you wanna create your party to kick Quebec out, I’ll vote for it I promise. But don’t use political powers to alter the results like you did in 95 this time!

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      How privileged must you be to be bothered simply by seing french on cereal boxes. A bit pathetic isn’t it? You wanna call you country’s official langage an “other langague”, because of course there’s the only one main language?

      Dude, I’m starting to think you’re not learning french not because you don’t want to, but because you simply lack the capability to do so.

      If you want to start you party to kick Quebec out of Canada I will 100% support it.

      Also, Pauvre petit coco means Poor little egg. Not exactly an insult, you would get it if you could speak french but I guess learning another langague is out of your reach.