• m0darn
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    10 months ago

    That you personally think it’s a negative speaks more to your own bias than the inclusion of the details.

    I don’t think it’s negative for people to be alienated from DeSantis. He’s a piece of shit.

    If you mean me specifically…

    I don’t think I do. You understand what bias is and recognize it.

    I agree my proposed alternative paragraph had a centrist bias, which isn’t something I had considered while drafting it. I think that’s because centrist bias is less overt. Since I was trying to contrast against the bias in the original article I still think it was appropriate.

    I’m assuming (possibly incorrectly) that you think that the included details can only be taken negatively, what does that say about your own bias?

    I’m not sure I understand your question. But this is the internet so I’ll answer anyway. I think bias against DeSantis is appropriate, especially in this community. But I didn’t think the article did it very well. I feel that way because it was so overt that I fear it would never be digested by anyone on the fence. Maybe it’s because I grew up and live in a slightly less dysfunctional democracy but I prefer news articles that help people understand others.

    • Senal@programming.dev
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      10 months ago

      I don’t think it’s negative for people to be alienated from DeSantis. He’s a piece of shit.

      Agreed and I’m also aware that that bias can creep in to how i present information but i think blatant attempts to try and alienate people (in general) isn’t a good approach, presenting facts and well reasoned points of view will allow others to draw their own conclusions.

      I don’t know if this applies to everyone, but if i get the impression that someone is trying to sway me in any direction (outside of a context where that sort of behaviour is expected and accepted by both parties) then I’d be very unlikely to take their opinion at face value.

      I’m not sure I understand your question. But this is the internet so I’ll answer anyway. I think bias against DeSantis is appropriate, especially in this community. But I didn’t think the article did it very well.

      Agreed, it wasn’t a well written article, at least by my standards.

      Since I was trying to contrast against the bias in the original article I still think it was appropriate.

      Also agreed, i was mainly pointing out that by leaving out mention of the potential other type of bias it could lead someone to think it was done intentionally, which ties in nicely with what you wrote next.

      I feel that way because it was so overt that I fear it would never be digested by anyone on the fence.

      Agreed and i find this to be a common problem, someone with an what would otherwise be a reasonable take pollutes my opinion of it by presenting it in such a way that it makes them seem unreasonable, be that inflammatory language, explicit bias, blatant omissions etc.

      I prefer news articles that help people understand others.

      This is harder and harder to find, not to say that any news has ever been bias free but to me it’s become much harder to find anything approaching a well presented article without some sort of literary shenanigans being applied.