NASA hasn’t done much because they set a specific agenda to try to push “routine” space operations into the private sector, not because they aren’t able to.
It’s not like the companies that do this sprang up and started doing without assurances they would have business.
Saying that NASA hasn’t developed new rocket technology is just absurd. They haven’t built as many low Earth orbit launch vehicles. There’s a difference.
US tank command also hasn’t built many jeeps.
I’m not sure why you saying it’s based on the Saturn 5 like that’s a bad thing. Modernizing a successful design isn’t a bad thing if you’re doing a similar thing.
Literally basic research into differing mechanisms for rocket propulsion. What do you think they do? That took literally 10 seconds to find.
So, you see “old technology” as bad, while people who actually do the work see it as “tested”. What, exactly, do you think they need to change? Do you think they haven’t modernized the components?
If you actually read about it, at all, you can read their considerations on reusability, upfront cost, refit cost, and usage cadence.
Basically, it’s more resource and cost effective to not reuse it.
I’m not entirely sure what you’re saying with your four attempt thing. Do you think they developed their plans for a commercially viable orbital launch vehicle totally blind of NASA’s plans for commercialization of low Earth orbit? NASA was already doing commercial contracting when SpaceX started.
And you’re forgetting that their first launches were purchased by darpa.
Your last point just sounds like you’re agreeing with me. NASA has been doing deep space rocket development, and leaving routine work to companies. I’m not sure why that’s so disagreeable, considering it’s what they said they were doing, and are very clearly doing.
Yes. We could have had reusable rockets 30 years ago if we funded NASA properly. We chose not to. Now, decades later we got a private company managed by man-children accountable to no one burning billions and billions in play money exploding shit in a manner that NASA would never be allowed to do until they finally, by some miracle, got a reusable rocket, and we’re all acting like “omg how amazing.” Give me a break. Not to mention that now we just have a bunch of trash in space.
But I don’t think it has changed for the better. Private industry can now cheaply and easily put trash in space, something they’ve been doing at a stunning rate. Literally nothing good can come of this at all.
This isn’t about Musk. If Bernie Sanders owned SpaceX I’d be saying the same thing. I do not want private citizens to have the power to launch objects into space. Period. Unless those objects are themselves and the target is the sun.
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Nationalize it and roll it into NASA
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NASA hasn’t done much because they set a specific agenda to try to push “routine” space operations into the private sector, not because they aren’t able to.
It’s not like the companies that do this sprang up and started doing without assurances they would have business.
Saying that NASA hasn’t developed new rocket technology is just absurd. They haven’t built as many low Earth orbit launch vehicles. There’s a difference.
US tank command also hasn’t built many jeeps.
I’m not sure why you saying it’s based on the Saturn 5 like that’s a bad thing. Modernizing a successful design isn’t a bad thing if you’re doing a similar thing.
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https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/marshall/nasa-validates-revolutionary-propulsion-design-for-deep-space-missions/
Literally basic research into differing mechanisms for rocket propulsion. What do you think they do? That took literally 10 seconds to find.
So, you see “old technology” as bad, while people who actually do the work see it as “tested”. What, exactly, do you think they need to change? Do you think they haven’t modernized the components? If you actually read about it, at all, you can read their considerations on reusability, upfront cost, refit cost, and usage cadence.
Basically, it’s more resource and cost effective to not reuse it.
I’m not entirely sure what you’re saying with your four attempt thing. Do you think they developed their plans for a commercially viable orbital launch vehicle totally blind of NASA’s plans for commercialization of low Earth orbit? NASA was already doing commercial contracting when SpaceX started.
And you’re forgetting that their first launches were purchased by darpa.
Your last point just sounds like you’re agreeing with me. NASA has been doing deep space rocket development, and leaving routine work to companies. I’m not sure why that’s so disagreeable, considering it’s what they said they were doing, and are very clearly doing.
Every bit of Space X’s business is built on the backs of NASA engineers. They are simply beneficiaries of radicalized privatization of public domains.
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What a joke.
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Yes. We could have had reusable rockets 30 years ago if we funded NASA properly. We chose not to. Now, decades later we got a private company managed by man-children accountable to no one burning billions and billions in play money exploding shit in a manner that NASA would never be allowed to do until they finally, by some miracle, got a reusable rocket, and we’re all acting like “omg how amazing.” Give me a break. Not to mention that now we just have a bunch of trash in space.
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But I don’t think it has changed for the better. Private industry can now cheaply and easily put trash in space, something they’ve been doing at a stunning rate. Literally nothing good can come of this at all.
This isn’t about Musk. If Bernie Sanders owned SpaceX I’d be saying the same thing. I do not want private citizens to have the power to launch objects into space. Period. Unless those objects are themselves and the target is the sun.
Im fine with them launching a rocket if theres a altitude activated brick of C4 taped to the rocket.
THEN YOU AGREE that all funding to Space X should be stopped until Musk is purged from leadership.
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