I find it ironic on a free speech platform that access to a community about censorship is censored https://exploding-heads.com/c/censorship

What exactly is wrong with this instance to be defederated? In browsing it, I see nothing hateful

Or did they defederate from this instance, so you cant view/post on it. Not sure if I completely understand how that works yet

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    An environment where anyone can spin up an instance where they control member accounts and then post on other instances with impunity would obviously be an unusable hellscape of griefing and abuse. The only, ONLY, ONLY way a community can survive in these conditions is if they have power to censor the content that they syndicate. Indeed, that is the whole point of community groups vs just consuming raw Internet; the content has been curated (aka censored) according to some set of rules.

    There are pure P2P networks that function the way you want. Go take a look and discover why no one is there.

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      Freenet still seems to be around. As I posted in my other comment here, I think Lemmy needs a client side censorship instead, giving users the option to hide what they don’t want. Eventually this will become a mess of instances doing anything to prevent getting canceled, thus increasing censorship.

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        Users and what they want are not important. Honestly. They are not. Even a little bit. You are so used to being “the customer” and having smoke blown up your ass, you can’t wrap your head around your actual role here in the fediverse as an unpaying user, taking advantage of services that private individuals are providing to you out of their own pocket.

        When someone posts child porn to Lemmy, the users don’t get their door kicked down, your friendly neighborhood sysops do. When someone DDOSes the site, users don’t get the bills for overages, sysops do. Users “want” or “don’t want” to see certain content, but sysops bear the actual real world consequences for that content. The desires of users are inconsequential compared to the needs of sysops. If you are not happy with the editorial decisions your sysop has made, if you want to have your own node that allows everyone to send you any illegal thing they want, you have that option.

        I was on freenet again about six months ago. It has some cool stuff like a distributed social network with about ten active users. Knock yourself out.

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          You are all over the place. Users are exactly what makes this all run. Free speech is different from illegal content.

          But yeah, that first line there, why should I even bother contributing if that’s the attitude?

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            Free speech allows you to stand in public and speak your mind. It does NOT allow you to use MY property to speak your mind. “Free speech” has no place in this discussion because we are not even fucking talking about interactions with the state.

            Several people have given you consistent explanations but you just brush them off because they are not compatible with your brainwashed ideological expectations. Apparently there is no end to your naivete and entitlement. I’m done trying to give you a clue. Figure it out yourself, kid.