No one was inside a Waymo car as it was destroyed.

A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco::A Waymo car was destroyed in San Francisco as a crowd began vandalizing it and ultimately set the car on fire. Nobody was in the vehicle at the time.

  • masterspaceEnglish
    118·
    10 months ago

    This is what I mean, you’ll never get rid of enclosed motorized vehicles for a variety of reasons, and if we’re going to have them around, it would be better if they were self driving and killed fewer people than human drivers.

      • masterspaceEnglish
        111·
        10 months ago

        Those are great but how are you going to deliver goods to people’s homes? Transport furniture? Home Reno materials? Kids + their sports equipment?

        How are you going to get the last mile to a home down a country road in winter with rain, sleet, and snow?

        Yes, we can minimize our usage of cars, but as you scale up the capabilities of a cargo bike you just reinvent the car.

        • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
          7·
          10 months ago

          Those are great but how are you going to deliver goods to people’s homes? Transport furniture? Home Reno materials? Kids + their sports equipment?

          With trucks, minivans, cargo bikes, and backpacks and hand carts. The first two are commercial vehicles, the last two private, the one in the middle either.

          How are you going to get the last mile to a home down a country road in winter with rain, sleet, and snow?

          With your tractor? Rather pointless to buy a car just for that distance and if you don’t own a tractor what are you doing out there.

          • masterspaceEnglish
            110·
            10 months ago

            With trucks, minivans, cargo bikes, and backpacks and hand carts. The first two are commercial vehicles, the last two private, the one in the middle either.

            Cool, regardless of whether they’re commercial or or private, it would still be better if they killed fewer people than they do today.

            With your tractor? Rather pointless to buy a car just for that distance and if you don’t own a tractor what are you doing out there.

            I don’t think you’ve spent much time in the country, most people don’t own tractors. It’s not just farmers as far as the eye can see, they still require a huge community / support system of electricians, mechanics, plumbers, shops and suppliers, entertainment, etc.

            • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
              7·
              10 months ago

              Cool, regardless of whether they’re commercial or or private, it would still be better if they killed fewer people than they do today.

              Then build streets that take pedestrians and cyclists into account and make sure that people don’t have to commute by car. That’s the coffee-drinking mobile-swiping distracted drivers thinking their Tesla can drive for them.

              It’s not just farmers as far as the eye can see, they still require a huge community / support system of electricians, mechanics, plumbers, shops and suppliers, entertainment, etc.

              …in a village, which means bus stop in walking distance, not in single home with a five kilometre driveway. Also electricians, mechanics, plumbers, shops and suppliers all have commercial vehicles, entertainment the fuck do you mean? If there’s a cinema in the village chances are the operators live in the same building, if it’s a circus troupe they have wagons because itinerant.

              • masterspaceEnglish
                111·
                10 months ago

                Then build streets that take pedestrians and cyclists into account and make sure that people don’t have to commute by car.

                Cool beans bro, you can do that, you’ll still have cars for the reasons I listed above. There is literally no city in existence where an elderly person can get to their doctor’s appointment in the middle of snow and rain without a car.

                …in a village, which means bus stop in walking distance, not in single home with a five kilometre driveway.

                Lmao. No it doesn’t. You’re not going to have a machine shop or feed supply shop in a village, it’s the size of a lumber yard and not zoned to be in a residential area.

                Also electricians, mechanics, plumbers, shops and suppliers all have commercial vehicles,

                Again, what’s your point about commercial vs private. Do you think self driving technology cares? Also that Waymo taxi they trashed is a commercial taxi.

                entertainment the fuck do you mean? If there’s a cinema in the village chances are the operators live in the same building, if it’s a circus troupe they have wagons because itinerant.

                Restaurants, theatres, rinks, stadiums, etc. You know, stuff people do for entertainment.

                Also, lmfao at this specifically:

                If there’s a cinema in the village chances are the operators live in the same building

                It’s not 1920 with a projectionist living in an apartment beside the projection room.

                • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
                  61·
                  10 months ago

                  There is literally no city in existence where an elderly person can get to their doctor’s appointment in the middle of snow and rain without a car.

                  Your health insurance doesn’t pay for a taxi or transport ambulance if you’re immobile? What kind of 3rd world shithole do you live in (don’t say I know the answer: America).

                  You’re not going to have a machine shop or feed supply shop in a village, it’s the size of a lumber yard and not zoned to be in a residential area.

                  That’s not a village that’s a farm.

                  Again, what’s your point about commercial vs private. Do you think self driving technology cares?

                  What’s the point of self driving when the car doesn’t need to move without someone in it?

                  Restaurants, theatres, rinks, stadiums, etc. You know, stuff people do for entertainment.

                  On your farm with ten kilometre driveway?

                  It’s not 1920 with a projectionist living in an apartment beside the projection room.

                  Then what went wrong?

                  • masterspaceEnglish
                    16·
                    10 months ago

                    Your health insurance doesn’t pay for a taxi or transport ambulance if you’re immobile? What kind of 3rd world shithole do you live in (don’t say I know the answer: America).

                    A taxi, you mean like a car? You mean like the Waymo taxi that was trashed?

                    That’s not a village that’s a farm.

                    We’re discussing how there are people in the country who don’t own tractors.

                    What’s the point of self driving when the car doesn’t need to move without someone in it?

                    Because self driving cars have the potential to be safer and less dangerous than human drivers. Waymo’s safety record is already better than the average human on a per mile basis.

                    On your farm with ten kilometre driveway?

                    The people who work those jobs, also live out in the country.