Yeah, boss doesn’t need my personal number. If I need to be contacted after work, he can call a provided work phone. The work phone will remain in the office, or off after hours, unless noted within 3 days.
My boss has my personal number. Calls a few times a week, not sure he has much outside working hours, “working hours” being plenty flexible. Don’t care. If he calls me right now (about midnight), I’m answering and helping with whatever he asks. And he wouldn’t call unless a customer, internal or external, was having a real issue that needed resolved before morning.
“You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours.” He bends the company rules for me, I bend my rules for him. He treats me fairly, I reciprocate. LOL, our team has a private Slack channel that senior management (ironically including my boss), can’t snoop on. (I’m the Slack admin. I can’t see any private shit I’m not invited to.)
What must it be like “lawyering” every interaction with your employer? If you gotta do that, leave, leave quick. Feeling and acting like that tells me you got a toxic environment.
Had a peer, who has his masters degree, just get let go because he dug his heels in and refused to take on anything more that would help everyone share the load better without immediate higher compensation. (No, they don’t need to hire anyone else quite yet and he wasn’t really doing that much to begin with). The boss decided he didn’t like that attitude and put someone else in place with 1) more industry experience and 2) was willing to actually perform his full job function.
I’m 6 months in the industry (but have ops experience), have a bachelors in an unrelated field and am willing to learn and do more as needed to help support the team. I was specifically told that I wasn’t going anywhere because the state president likes my attitude and how I support my teams and those of my peers. Just got a nice sized bonus out of it too.
Morale: Don’t be the douchebag that doesn’t work well with others under the guise of it being abuse (it’s not).
Yeah, boss doesn’t need my personal number. If I need to be contacted after work, he can call a provided work phone. The work phone will remain in the office, or off after hours, unless noted within 3 days.
My boss has my personal number. Calls a few times a week, not sure he has much outside working hours, “working hours” being plenty flexible. Don’t care. If he calls me right now (about midnight), I’m answering and helping with whatever he asks. And he wouldn’t call unless a customer, internal or external, was having a real issue that needed resolved before morning.
“You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours.” He bends the company rules for me, I bend my rules for him. He treats me fairly, I reciprocate. LOL, our team has a private Slack channel that senior management (ironically including my boss), can’t snoop on. (I’m the Slack admin. I can’t see any private shit I’m not invited to.)
What must it be like “lawyering” every interaction with your employer? If you gotta do that, leave, leave quick. Feeling and acting like that tells me you got a toxic environment.
And this attitude certainly gets you farther.
Had a peer, who has his masters degree, just get let go because he dug his heels in and refused to take on anything more that would help everyone share the load better without immediate higher compensation. (No, they don’t need to hire anyone else quite yet and he wasn’t really doing that much to begin with). The boss decided he didn’t like that attitude and put someone else in place with 1) more industry experience and 2) was willing to actually perform his full job function.
I’m 6 months in the industry (but have ops experience), have a bachelors in an unrelated field and am willing to learn and do more as needed to help support the team. I was specifically told that I wasn’t going anywhere because the state president likes my attitude and how I support my teams and those of my peers. Just got a nice sized bonus out of it too.
Morale: Don’t be the douchebag that doesn’t work well with others under the guise of it being abuse (it’s not).