• SpaceCowboy
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    11 months ago

    Its good for Science Fiction can be aspirational sometimes though.

    Classic Star Trek has humans living in an idealistic society meeting some weirdo aliens doing some weirdo alien shit that causes a lot of problems. Then you realize we’re more like the aliens than the we are like the idealistic future human society. Our society is alien to to an ideal society.

    Then the Enterprise warps off to some other place to do some cool shit somewhere else and the aliens are stuck on their shitty planet because they’re a bunch of losers what can’t get past their weirdo shit.

    The implication is that we could be the cool dudes in a starship constantly doing awesome shit. But instead we’re the losers stuck on a planet that the people in the starships laugh at.

    So the reason why an ideal future isn’t possible is because we can’t get past our weirdo loser ideas.

    I can now picture Kirk, Spock and Bones having a chuckle about some weirdo aliens that can’t advance because they’re stuck in the rut of doomerism.

    “It’s quite illogical that they can’t understand they can never achieve anything if they presume failure before they even try.”

    “Humanity once thought that way a long time ago but we eventually got past it. Anyway, off we go somewhere else to see some other loser aliens doing stupid shit we used to do!”

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      11 months ago

      Quite a take on it!

      Meanwhile, homo sapien are effectively half fighting chimp, half sexy loving bonobo.

      We get to choose our own path.

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        11 months ago

        Half sexy? I’m offended! I’m 100% sexy bonobo!

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      11 months ago

      So the reason why an ideal future isn’t possible is because we can’t get past our weirdo loser ideas.

      I can now picture Kirk, Spock and Bones having a chuckle about some weirdo aliens that can’t advance because they’re stuck in the rut of doomerism.

      Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, was indeed a closet communist who infused his political beliefs into the show. The concept of a peaceful, egalitarian society united under one government, where resources were shared and everyone worked for the betterment of all - this is essentially a communist ideal. In fact, the characters themselves embody different facets of Marxist theory. For instance, Captain Kirk represents the proletariat fighting against oppression while Mr. Spock embodies the need for logic and rational decision-making.

      Star Trek’s vision of the future was meant to inspire hope and demonstrate what humanity could achieve when freed from the constraints of class and economic systems. In many ways, the show serves as a subtle form of communist propaganda. As you mentioned, each episode often portrayed humans as progressing towards an idealistic future, while the aliens faced various challenges due to their clinging to old ideologies and social structures. This reflects Roddenberry’s belief that to truly advance, societies must shed outdated and divisive ideas.

      By presenting a world where these barriers are overcome, Star Trek encourages viewers to question their own societal norms and consider how they might work together in a more just and cooperative manner. Although the series was never overtly political, its underlying message clearly illustrates Roddenberry’s support for communism, making it a unique piece of entertainment that not only entertains but also educates its audience.

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        11 months ago

        Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, was indeed a closet communist

        Citation needed.