• SpaceCowboy
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    10 months ago

    Yes, if there were a hypothetical US military base, hypothetically called Fort Sumter, where there’s US military stationed in a state that hypothetically seceded, how would that play out, hypothetically speaking? :P

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      10 months ago

      Assuming it was a peacefull succession. Negotiations etc. Really not to difficult to resolve.

      Of course the reality is no one in power in Texas really wants to go independent. They want to use the threat to try and controll the federal government. And or They are just using there supporters to gain a foot hold on some power.

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        10 months ago

        Well yeah, all issues can be resolved via negotiation. But the key is both parties have to negotiate in good faith. And many times secessionists want to have their cake and eat it too.

        I’m Canadian and we’ve seen this kind of thing with both Quebec and Alberta. Alberta is basically Canada’s Texas (right wing, they got oil) and like Texas the secessionist tendencies aren’t all that serious.

        With Quebec it’s a little more serious. But people still have weird ideas about what being a country means. We’ll still have Canadian passports, right? No you won’t. The federal government employs a lot of people in Quebec, those jobs aren’t going away, right? Uhhh… those jobs are leaving to go somewhere in Canada. Also there’s indication from the private sector from companies like Air Canada that they will be moving their head offices to somewhere in Canada. Oh, and by the way, Quebec is going to have take on a percentage of the national debt equal to the the percentage of Quebec’s population in Canada.

        A lot of these things are just about emotion. I feel pride for Texas! I hate liberals! We should be our own country! But when you get down to the nuts and bolts of it, it takes all the fun out of it and it goes away.

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          10 months ago

          Lol, I don’t know where you get your information, but Quebecers who are for separation, like me, don’t think they’ll still have a Canadian passport, nor a job in the federal government. The fact that many in Canada would think we’re that dumb only reinforces my conviction for separation. Dont get me wrong I think most Canadian people are really nice and I love them as brothers, but I just dont think they understand or care about our culture.

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            10 months ago

            I care about economics more than culture. From an economic standpoint, yes separation would be a dumb move.

            Why would you want someone outside your culture to care about it? Isn’t it better for your culture to be left alone?

            What exactly about your culture requires Quebec to be a separate country? Nothing, Quebec culture has existed within Canada longer than any of us have been alive.

            So significant economic cost, no cultural benefit.

            You’re not thinking, you’re just being emotional. There’s no logic or reason for separation, it is only emotions making people behave irrationally.

            It’s the same with Texas, same with Alberta.