• Ace T'Ken
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    So don’t jump down my throat please but I don’t understand this article. I have a couple of question that I would like an actual answer to and haven’t seen addressed anywhere else:

    “Team America World Police” was a mockable idea back in the 90s and early 2000s because America stuck its nose everywhere - wanted or not.

    Now here I see people attacking a president because he will not interfere in something that shouldn’t be America’s business? As far as I was aware, America leaving other countries the hell alone would be a good thing on the world stage, no? Why not get mad that any sitting president hasn’t interfered in the Uyghgur Genocide? Why just this?

    Why is this particular conflict that has been ongoing for ages something worth blaming a current president for not interfering in?

    The only thing I can really find online in the news are Republicans blaming Biden for the attacks on Israel which doesn’t make sense with the response here. What the heck is going on?

    I don’t have a stance on this, I’m just trying to understand because it doesn’t make sense to me so please don’t take that as aggressive.

    Edit: Downvotes? For trying to figure out an international situation? Man, I don’t understand you sometimes, Lemmy. You can be so nonsensically goddamn hostile…

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      worth blaming a current president for not interfering in?

      The US president has 100% say in the amount of money and weapons Israel receives, he can order everything to stop like President Reagan in 1982. His refusal to stop genocide, like Reagan did, makes him complicit in Palestinian deaths and the destruction of their homes, culture, and civilization.

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        So… (and again, I’m trying to parse the situation, not attacking) Biden has been funding the war specifically and giving Israel weapons? Why? To what end? And please don’t say genocide because that’s not a tangible reward result for Biden or America. If they are doing the above, what do they get from it?

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          America has been funding Israel for decades. It’s not just a Biden problem, but he’s the one in power while Israel commits genocide.

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            Yes, I get that. I was finally able to find several news sites reporting the amount of money funnelled to Israel in order to ensure the US has a small foothold in that area of the world. It seems a tad excessive, but politically understandable I suppose. Allies in that region are valuable, but goddamn that’s a lot of money.

            I also saw that this most recent payment structure was guaranteed for a certain time frame by Obama. Breaking the agreement off would be breaking treaties and guarantees. Not a great thing to do for America, but what’s going on over there is not exactly a good look. I think that I now agree that Biden should pull aid from Israel.

            Again, thank you for the discussion and explanations. It’s nice when people respond instead of just mindlessly downvoting someone who is asking for details.

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              Yeah maybe America needs a no-genocide clause in their agreements with their allies.

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      The US finance Israel with billions of dollars

      They have given Israel billions of dollars of military aid in just the last three months

      Without the US involved, Israel would not be able to cause this level of destruction

      The US has also consistently defended Israel in international court and in front of the UN while doing this

      Biden is constantly giving Israel money and support, so it is on him

      The US is not leaving this war alone, they are intrinsically psrt of it

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        So… (and again, I’m trying to parse the situation, not attacking so I’m asking all three respondents here the same question so I get a range of replies) Biden has been funding the war specifically and giving Israel weapons? Why? To what end? And please don’t say genocide because that’s not a tangible reward result for Biden or America. If they are doing the above, what do they get from it?

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          Because Israel is the US patsy in the Middle East and this way the US keeps power there

          Also a lot of oil

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        So… (and again, I’m trying to parse the situation, not attacking so I’m asking all three respondents here the same question so I get a range of replies) Biden has been funding the war specifically and giving Israel weapons? Why? To what end? And please don’t say genocide because that’s not a tangible reward result for Biden or America. If they are doing the above, what do they get from it?

        Understandably, they may have done so after WW2 and the creation of Israel to keep a “friendly” state in the region. That part makes sense.