Problem is the so-called tankies don’t even distinguish between MAGA people in the US and US liberals or Democrats - to them, they’re both “Liberals” as in neoliberals, and for some reason they rarely criticize US conservatives while spending plenty of time criticizing US Democrats. Doesn’t make much sense from their supposed point of view.
TokenBoomer is a tankie bootlicker. Ignore them. Their only interest is in sobbing “Why won’t the socdems work with us???” while simultaneously saying that socdems and fascists are the exact same thing.
“Left unity” to tankies means “Lick out boots until we put a bullet in your head”. Obey the party line!
I didn’t say that though. I said not communist enough as I doubt that I’d pass the ideological purity test of thinking that anything short of perfection may as well be MAGA.
The issue isn’t with wanting to work together - that’s the key point you’re missing. It’s the way left-leaning Americans are lumped in with complete fascists, like it’s either 100% good or “You’re a LIBERAL just like Republicans!” (meaning neoliberal, which is also confusing af in American political terms).
If you’re anti-capitalist, Republicans and Democrats are the same. And they criticize both, but…
I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice
I realize their perspective is purely economic issues. However, it completely overlooks the vast difference on social issues and the fact that MAGA wants to institute a more harsh form of capitalism, plus theocratic dictatorship. Seems like a worthy distinction to me. Plus, that doesn’t explain why they’re so hot to criticize people like Biden and Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton but don’t say jack shit about the various Trump supporting clowns prominent in US politics.
Yes, thanks for the MLK quote but not sure why you thought I needed to read that again right now.
I don’t need you to read it, I need you to understand it. MLK was writing about people like Biden, Hillary and Warren, who are more concerned with rules and order than justice. Trump and MAGA are the KKK. We know what they are.
The problem is liberals attacking tankies, who they need to work with to counter the fascism of Trump and conservatives. I want liberals and leftists to work together, but some are so hellbent on purity tests that they fail to see the big picture. Anarchists and Marxists Leninists should know that to ultimately defeat fascism, you have to dismantle capitalism.
I’m not allying with people defending Russia’s persecution of the LGBT and Russian imperialism. I don’t want to replace an imperialism with another imperialism with an exotic taste.
At first I thought using the term “tankies” was similar to how rednecks call the left “libs.” Mostly it was because I didn’t understand the term.
Then I asked what it meant.
Once I knew what it meant- I was determined to stay out of it. I didn’t really have a dog in that race as I didn’t have much of an opinion either way.
Then I came here and saw first-hand the sheer lunacy from those people.
I call them tankies now.
Yeah, the Marxists Leninist are the problem, not the conservative MAGA ghouls that want to enslave women and children… smh 🤦♀️
Problem is the so-called tankies don’t even distinguish between MAGA people in the US and US liberals or Democrats - to them, they’re both “Liberals” as in neoliberals, and for some reason they rarely criticize US conservatives while spending plenty of time criticizing US Democrats. Doesn’t make much sense from their supposed point of view.
TokenBoomer is a tankie bootlicker. Ignore them. Their only interest is in sobbing “Why won’t the socdems work with us???” while simultaneously saying that socdems and fascists are the exact same thing.
“Left unity” to tankies means “Lick out boots until we put a bullet in your head”. Obey the party line!
I’d be amazed if this person actually lived in the US.
I, unfortunately, do. So, enjoy the amazement.
I’ll believe it when I bump into you at the grocery store and apologize for not being communist enough.
So, you admit you don’t believe in communism. How did I know?
I didn’t say that though. I said not communist enough as I doubt that I’d pass the ideological purity test of thinking that anything short of perfection may as well be MAGA.
You don’t agree that fascism is capitalism in decay? Why shouldn’t I want to work with groups that want to prevent another Trump presidency?
The issue isn’t with wanting to work together - that’s the key point you’re missing. It’s the way left-leaning Americans are lumped in with complete fascists, like it’s either 100% good or “You’re a LIBERAL just like Republicans!” (meaning neoliberal, which is also confusing af in American political terms).
I’m glad you understand. Education is liberation.
If you’re anti-capitalist, Republicans and Democrats are the same. And they criticize both, but…
Martin Luther King, Jr.
I realize their perspective is purely economic issues. However, it completely overlooks the vast difference on social issues and the fact that MAGA wants to institute a more harsh form of capitalism, plus theocratic dictatorship. Seems like a worthy distinction to me. Plus, that doesn’t explain why they’re so hot to criticize people like Biden and Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton but don’t say jack shit about the various Trump supporting clowns prominent in US politics.
Yes, thanks for the MLK quote but not sure why you thought I needed to read that again right now.
I don’t need you to read it, I need you to understand it. MLK was writing about people like Biden, Hillary and Warren, who are more concerned with rules and order than justice. Trump and MAGA are the KKK. We know what they are.
Yeah, the socially liberal lite socialists are the problem, not the conservative MAGA ghouls that want to enslave women and children… smh 🤦♀️
The problem is liberals attacking tankies, who they need to work with to counter the fascism of Trump and conservatives. I want liberals and leftists to work together, but some are so hellbent on purity tests that they fail to see the big picture. Anarchists and Marxists Leninists should know that to ultimately defeat fascism, you have to dismantle capitalism.
I’m not allying with people defending Russia’s persecution of the LGBT and Russian imperialism. I don’t want to replace an imperialism with another imperialism with an exotic taste.
MLs are fine. Tankies are the MAGA cultists painted red. Fuck nazbols.
Tankies appear to be whatever you want them to be.
Don’t want to be called a tankie? Stop simping for autocracies/ultranationalist hellholes. It’s that simple.
I don’t care if you call me a tankie, nazbol, or whatever. Just don’t call me Liberal… lol
Is nazi OK?
Sure, if I can call you a trad-cap.
I’m surprised a so-called leftist would allow anyone to call them a nazi. Kinda making a point here, thank you.