Stapleton said she now relies more on filtered water at her home in New Jersey.
But study co-author Beizhan Yan, a Columbia environmental chemist who increased his tap water usage, pointed out that filters themselves can be a problem by introducing plastics.
I’ve been saying this to people for a long time. Here in my country, most water filters are based on charcoal and a final filtering element. That element used to be made of cellulose and other organic materials, but in the last decade, they started coming with that element made of polypropylene, until all the cellulose ones disappeared from the market. Just imagine your water passing though a porous layer of plastic, like a rigid sponge… this is a serious microplastic source.
I’m not sure how much microplastics are released in that way. It can be better than bottles, but if we used non plastic materials for so long, and it worked fine, I see no reason to put plastic in there.
I live somewhere that regulates drinking water extremely strictly.
Many of us do, but testing methods are often deceptive.
For example, if they are testing at the treatment plant, they miss any and all contaminants found along the pipes leading up to your home, including the inside of a faucet (which are quite filthy).
If they are testing from the tap, they will let it run for 5 minutes, then test. Nobody drinks water like that, so the contamination or sediment levels will appear much lower in the test.
What is it that concerns you about your potable water lines?
In my municipality, our water is indeed “clean”, yet test results in 2022 shows that we exceeded lead content throughout the entire year. That concerns me, and we’re talking only lead.
I’d be concerned about that .4mg/L sample on Aug 31 from the distribution system.
If your house was built pre-2000, you should flush your cold water tap for a minute each morning anyway
As disclosure, I work for my municipal waterworks and have direct training, knowledge, and experience on how the system operates and the lengths taken to both adhere to regulatory compliance and the steps taken when the treatment system fails to keep people safe. I also see all the problems that occur within that system and the resulting actions. My province had a terrible event occur decades ago, and rewrote the rules on providing safe drinking water to people. I see the requirements in place keeping the constant checks and balances on the system and the consequences for failure.
Not necessarily. It just requires excitation at a molecular level. You can get creative with your source. They have been playing around with low energy methods like LED or even just using the sun, geothermal, etc.
I was about to write back that we are not far off the advances to make these affordable and then did a google search and found that you can get a distilled unit on Amazon for $180 that is capable of making a gallon in 5 hours for about $.45 worth of electricity. That is far less than what it costs to buy distilled water at the store, which is around $1 a gallon. If you look at this from a break-even analysis, you technically start to reap the rewards of ownership after about 800 uses since the first 400 uses basically cost you $1.45 per gallon, then the next 400 costs you $.45 per gallon, but you are recouping that extra cost over the $1 retail price, so by the 800th use, you are getting water at less than half the price of the store.
A gallon is not much though, not for a family. If you have to double or triple that amount, the electricity costs will really add up. If you’re talking European electricity costs, you might as well drink expensive wine instead 😂
If cost was more in line with traditional filters, then it may be a more accessible option. But electricity costs are only going up.
Even with fission, nuclear is a panacea of energy with almost no waste for modern reactors. I can see there being an initial rise in energy costs to get those projects built out though. If they are phasing out nuclear, that would be dumb.
Additionally, researchers at MIT recently found that you can evaporate water without heat, so that should hopefully be a thing in the near future.
Oh, man.
I’ve been saying this to people for a long time. Here in my country, most water filters are based on charcoal and a final filtering element. That element used to be made of cellulose and other organic materials, but in the last decade, they started coming with that element made of polypropylene, until all the cellulose ones disappeared from the market. Just imagine your water passing though a porous layer of plastic, like a rigid sponge… this is a serious microplastic source.
You’re talking like .01% as much plastic use per liter as plastic bottle water packs. Is that not…much much better?
I’m not sure how much microplastics are released in that way. It can be better than bottles, but if we used non plastic materials for so long, and it worked fine, I see no reason to put plastic in there.
Plastic is like lead, there shouldnt be any in our systems
It’s like it in that this is true, but there’s a big, big, big difference in how big a deal a given amount being in our systems is.
But the filters introduce way way fewer.plastics…?
Tap to glass sounds pretty good to me, but I live next to some pretty tasty water with a good municipal system.
Don’t look in your pipes. 🤢
I live somewhere that regulates drinking water extremely strictly. What is it that concerns you about your potable water lines?
Many of us do, but testing methods are often deceptive.
For example, if they are testing at the treatment plant, they miss any and all contaminants found along the pipes leading up to your home, including the inside of a faucet (which are quite filthy).
If they are testing from the tap, they will let it run for 5 minutes, then test. Nobody drinks water like that, so the contamination or sediment levels will appear much lower in the test.
The points above, but also the fact that lead is still found in pipes.
In my municipality, our water is indeed “clean”, yet test results in 2022 shows that we exceeded lead content throughout the entire year. That concerns me, and we’re talking only lead.
I’d be concerned about that .4mg/L sample on Aug 31 from the distribution system.
If your house was built pre-2000, you should flush your cold water tap for a minute each morning anyway
As disclosure, I work for my municipal waterworks and have direct training, knowledge, and experience on how the system operates and the lengths taken to both adhere to regulatory compliance and the steps taken when the treatment system fails to keep people safe. I also see all the problems that occur within that system and the resulting actions. My province had a terrible event occur decades ago, and rewrote the rules on providing safe drinking water to people. I see the requirements in place keeping the constant checks and balances on the system and the consequences for failure.
Pre-1980 😵
I’ll start doing this. I appreciate the insight.
Distill water, then add minerals back into it, and bottle in glass, profit.
Probably the best way. Distillation uses a lot of electricity, doesn’t it?
Not necessarily. It just requires excitation at a molecular level. You can get creative with your source. They have been playing around with low energy methods like LED or even just using the sun, geothermal, etc.
Yes, I’m aware of different way to distill, but if this were to work in a home/commercial setting, it needs to be accessible/affordable.
I’d personally love to get a home distiller, but I read they were very expensive to run :(
I was about to write back that we are not far off the advances to make these affordable and then did a google search and found that you can get a distilled unit on Amazon for $180 that is capable of making a gallon in 5 hours for about $.45 worth of electricity. That is far less than what it costs to buy distilled water at the store, which is around $1 a gallon. If you look at this from a break-even analysis, you technically start to reap the rewards of ownership after about 800 uses since the first 400 uses basically cost you $1.45 per gallon, then the next 400 costs you $.45 per gallon, but you are recouping that extra cost over the $1 retail price, so by the 800th use, you are getting water at less than half the price of the store.
A gallon is not much though, not for a family. If you have to double or triple that amount, the electricity costs will really add up. If you’re talking European electricity costs, you might as well drink expensive wine instead 😂
If cost was more in line with traditional filters, then it may be a more accessible option. But electricity costs are only going up.
Even with fission, nuclear is a panacea of energy with almost no waste for modern reactors. I can see there being an initial rise in energy costs to get those projects built out though. If they are phasing out nuclear, that would be dumb.
Additionally, researchers at MIT recently found that you can evaporate water without heat, so that should hopefully be a thing in the near future.
Resistive heating is 100% efficient at turning electrical energy into heat
Unless it gets coated in salt…
wrong
Rock salt will act as a thermal barrier, sure you may be able to turn the electricity into heat but transfering that heat is another story
What happens when you distill salt water? It leaves behind rock salts…