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  • joshhsoj1902English
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    1 year ago

    Which car infrastructure are you talking about in this case?

      • joshhsoj1902English
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        1 year ago

        Roads don’t really go away with public transit, they might need less maintenance overall, but they still need to exist in some form, and roads lasting 10% longer doesn’t seem like a huge savings

        Parking is mostly privately owned, so saving money on parking doesn’t really make more money available to invest in public transit.

        • FluffyPotato@lemm.eeEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Tram tracks last forever and don’t need roads. Also cars and trucks are responsible for like 90% of road damage, for example pedestrian roads last decades with zero maintenance. If cars and trucks got Thanos snapped the budget for road maintenance would be miniscule.

          • joshhsoj1902English
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            1 year ago

            I guess if you don’t include buses in public transit. And pretend that all people live within a 5km walk of existing public transit. You’re right.

            But otherwise you’re just oversimplifiying the situation and vastily underestimating how much it actually costs to build a full team network through rural areas.

            • FluffyPotato@lemm.eeEnglish
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              1 year ago

              I’m saying build trams and trains, both require like no maintenance, are cheap to build and solve the most issues. It’s a better investment than EVs.

              • joshhsoj1902English
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                1 year ago

                You’re suggesting that teams and EVs solve the same problems. But they don’t.

                EVs replace ICE vehicles. Public transit replace cars in areas that are dense enough to make them viable.

                The reason public transit isn’t everywhere because they are expensive to build and maintain.

                Yes build them, but suggesting that teams and trains are a replacement for EVs today is completely false and is only hurting your argument overall.

                • FluffyPotato@lemm.eeEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  Of course there are exceptions, there are people who live in the absolute ass end of nowhere and they should have a car but those people are a tiny minority. They are in fact such a minority it makes no difference if they drive an ICE car or an electric one when it comes to climate change.

                  The vast majority of people live in cities, towns, villages, etc. Hook those up with train tracks and if a city is big enough build trams in the city and you got 99% of the people covered, while reducing road maintenance budget to almost nothing, improving local air quality massively, reduce microplastics from tires to pretty much nothing, make noise pollution a thing of the past and reduce tailpipe emissions to a negligible amount.

                  • joshhsoj1902English
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                    1 year ago

                    This is where I think you have a skewed picture of reality.

                    In North America 20% of people live in rural areas.

                    As much as I wish that was “vast majority” it isn’t.

                    Your simple view of public transit doesn’t line up with the realities in North America. I wish it did, but it doesn’t. And unfortunately your uninformed arguments are the fuel actual opponents of public transit use to justify their position.

                    It doesn’t help the cause to spread uninformed arguments