Pope Francis has decided to take measures to punish Cardinal Raymond Burke, who is one of his highest-ranking critics. Two people briefed on the measures say Francis has decided to revoke Burke's right to a Vatican apartment and salary.

Pope Francis has decided to punish one of his highest-ranking critics, Cardinal Raymond Burke, by revoking his right to a subsidized Vatican apartment and salary in the second such radical action against a conservative American prelate this month, according to two people briefed on the measures.

Francis told a meeting of the heads of Vatican offices last week that he was moving against Burke because he was a source of “disunity” in the church, said one of the participants at the Nov. 20 meeting. The participant spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to reveal the contents of the encounter.

Francis said he was removing Burke’s privileges of having a subsidized Vatican apartment and salary as a retired cardinal because he was using the privileges against the church, said another person who was subsequently briefed on the pope’s measures. That person also spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to reveal the details.

  • grteEnglish
    1022·
    7 months ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see a schism at some point. American Catholicism is being influenced greatly by evangelical Christianity and the political project that exists around that.

        • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          10·
          7 months ago

          Well, now that’s not quite right. The straight white Christian-nationalistic male evangelicals are allowed to have fun. It’s just that their definition of “fun” doesn’t really match everyone else’s definition.

          Read into that what you will.

          • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            7 months ago

            I remember seeing an age-old snippet from the Times of London or such, reporting about political discussions about outlawing dogfights. The Anglican Church opposed it on grounds of leading the soul of Englishmen towards barbarism, some other group on grounds of worry about the animals (same thing, different perspective), the Puritans opposed in on the grounds of people having fun.

    • pohart@programming.devEnglish
      18·
      7 months ago

      The American catholics who i know love Francis and think it’s taken too long to get him. Anecdotal, but I think the Dallas based church would have difficulty convincing local parishes that the Catholic pope is now misinformed and the new bigot really speaks for God

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        15·
        7 months ago

        I think you’re vastly underestimating how much the Nationalist Christian demographic gets pumped up by their hour of hate. They’ve got a persecution fetish.

        • CileTheSaneEnglish
          41·
          7 months ago

          Nationalist Christian demographic

          Sure they’d love him, but they’re also not Catholic.

            • June@lemm.eeEnglish
              41·
              7 months ago

              Remember anecdote should not be treated as empirical.

              I know some Catholics that may as well be evangelicals with extra steps, but I know more that are far from it. It happens to be that the ones that aren’t essentially evangelicals are just quiet about it.

      • quicksand@lemm.eeEnglish
        9·
        7 months ago

        As someone who went to a Catholic school in Dallas, I don’t share your optimism. I hope you’re right, though.

        • pohart@programming.devEnglish
          3·
          7 months ago

          I don’t doubt he’ll get churches in his old diocese, I’m doubtful that it’ll have far reaching consequences, though.

    • Volkditty@kbin.social
      17·
      7 months ago

      A handful of relatives at Thanksgiving wanted to have a conversation/diatribe about what the pope was doing wrong but hey look, I’m gonna go stand over here instead.

      • BigFig@lemmy.worldEnglish
        121·
        7 months ago

        So Catholics with a basic and fundamental misunderstanding of how the church functions and the power of their head of church. Such great Catholics

        • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          7 months ago

          If there is one thing true about all catholics is how selectively they practice their religion. It’s more like a buffet, not a planned meal.

    • PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      7 months ago

      There are actually schismatic churches right now. Mel Gibson and his father are members. Iirc they left because of Vatican II, and JP2 was too liberal for them. Mel apparently has a chapel on his property and a priest of that sect says the Latin Mass there.

      I think I read about it when he said that anti-Semitic stuff after getting pulled over.