• Grant_M
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    7 months ago

    We don’t even know the actual Gaza death toll. And we also have to remember that it is the Netanyahu regime doing the counterattack, not the people of Israel.

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      7 months ago

      Thank you. Most Israelis do not support the war or their fascist government.

      States rarely do what their people want. Usually this is especially the case with existential threats like war & the climate catastrophe.

      Blame the State, not the people. Help the people overthrow the State. BDS.

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        7 months ago

        What Israelis Think of the War With Hamas: Polls (Nov 10, 2023):

        Poll results were also hawkish when it came to the use of force in Gaza: 57.5% of Israeli Jews said that they believed the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) were using too little firepower in Gaza, 36.6% said the IDF was using an appropriate amount of firepower, while just 1.8% said they believed the IDF was using too much fire power, while 4.2% said they weren’t sure whether it was using too much or too little firepower.

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        7 months ago

        Bullshit on the don’t support the government he has been in power for 16 years obviously he is getting voted in.

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          7 months ago

          Do you realize what happened to the last leftist leader that tried to make peace with Palestine? The current president called him a Nazi and he was assassinated by a right extremist Israeli.

          The people want to elect a leader, but no leader is willing to run because they know the consequence of doing so.

          It’s not so simple as “vote” in a police State.

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            I’m saying that Hamas’ attacks would not have happened had Palestine not been colonized, its people displaced and massacred at every turn.

            Displacement happened because Palestinians declared war on Israel and lost. Read up on the history of the massacres in mandatory Palestine, slaughtering of Jews was what started this conflict in earnest and made a one state solution impossible.

            Palestinian Arabs were doing this shit long before any colonization happened, until that point the Jews were legally buying land.

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              7 months ago

              It’s pretty well known that we (America) ended up creating isis.

              We actually did it in the same way as Israel, we just spread our deaths out longer.

              We aren’t perfect, far from it, so you should learn from our actions, instead of imitating them.

              I grew up just as all of it started, high school when 9/11 happened.

              I’ve already rode the ride you’re about to start,
              and I recommend you get off of it.

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                It’s pretty well known that we (America) ended up creating isis.

                We actually did it in the same way as Israel, we just spread our deaths out longer.

                You are spreading the story that Israel created Hamas by Colonizing - when did the US colonize Iraq? You should get your story straight.

                I’ve already rode the ride you’re about to start, and I recommend you get off of it.

                What are you talking about? What ride „I“ am about to start?

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                  I meant all of the innocents we killed in the name of vengeance.

                  That, that is what we did that Israel is doing.

                  Are you not Israeli?

                  With all the dick-riding and bootlicking you do for them I just assumed you were.

                  The ride of blood and revenge, y’all/they have dipped your toes in the water of wanton massacres of brown people and the killing of innocents, now you are trying to dive into the deep end.

                  Knowing that your money and your people are committing atrocities and killing innocents in the name of “justice”.

                  Doesn’t “Never Again” mean “Never Again” or are we attaching qualifiers to it?

                  Netanyahu likes to throw up WWII and the Firebombing of Dresden and the hitting of that children’s hospital.

                  He just happens to neglect the fact that we have smart bombs and the ability to turn dumb bombs into smart bombs.

                  Hell here in America we got bored of building the biggest bombs so we built an assassination bomb with fucking swords on it just to show how accurate we can be.

                  If y’all don’t want to be called a terrorist nation, then stop using terroristic tactics?

                  Seems easy enough to me.

                  We expect more from civil societies than we do from terrorists.

                  It is fucking hilarious every time I hear someone say “Well Hamas…” because they are directly comparing Israeli and Hamas like we should even consider what a terrorist organization is doing to what a “Civilized Nation” is doing.

                  Just because Hamas is doing something bad, does not mean that Israel gets to as well.

                  If you are doing bad guy things, then you are a bad guy, just not the worst one.

                  Just don’t try to pretend you are the good guy at the same time.

                  There’s my rant, I usually browse kbin logged out so I don’t end up fighting with people.

                  If you are Jewish, know that we have no beef.

                  If you are Israeli, i understand your feelings, I just don’t agree with your countries actions.

                  Y’all have killed a lot of innocents and just bred your Next Big Problem.

                  Shabbat Shalom and may all of your innocents make it home to their homes before Hanukkah to be with their families.

                  I wish Passover would have been closer, I like the symbolism of people being protected to freedom more than a celebration of a violent revolt.

                  I suppose history doesn’t repeat itself, but it sure follows the same lines.

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                    I knew from the start that you didn’t want to discuss and only peddle your antisimetic bullshit - but it is nice to see you finally admitting to it openly.

                    I only wish you would be able to keep the stuff you vomit into the Internet shorter - it is rather boring to read.

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                  Also I said nothing nor implied anything about colonizing.

                  That is in the West Bank, not gaza, and is its own can of worms.

                  Plus colonizing is a very loaded term that I am not comfortable using at this point.

                  We can stick with settlements.

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              7 months ago

              Fuck Hamas and Fuck Israel both.

              As far as I know there is only one Jewish person that I have ever met that was anything but friendly and joyful.

              Tbf that one guys is on the internet though, so I don’t think they count.

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                7 months ago

                Oh so are able to distinguish Palestinians and Hamas - but are not able to do the same for Israel?

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                  7 months ago

                  Fine if you want to nitpick that much, even though I clearly stated I have no problem with any Jewish people.

                  Fuck the current Israeli government, anyone who voted for them, anyone who will continue to vote for them, anyone who has supported them and anyone who will support them in the future, as well as anyone who’s supported, directly or implicitly, any of the aforementioned persons or groups.

                  Better?

                  Now will you say the same?