Hey All,

So here’s the deal, I have an old HP laptop I am in the process of resetting and setting up wiping and setting up as my ~8yo nephew’s first computer. He played his first PC game sitting on my lap and I am determined to fuel his budding interest in computers as much as possible. He has an iPad from his parents and has been attending a ‘code ninjas’ camp for kids his age and has been loving it. So for Christmas this year I asked his parents and they’re comfortable with him having his own, supervised, system.

I was planning to start with just a blank slate on the machine with a parent account and then a child account for him. Obviously the parental controls will be in place with his parents getting a crash course in anything they don’t already know how to use(they’re tech literate so I’m not worried about that). But they’re not CS people and I’m only barely self taught over the years.

I have this vision of giving him a sandbox with enough toys and tools (as much FOSS as possible) that he can safely play around and build/make things on his own. So here’s where my question for y’all comes in, what are your recommendations for a budding computer scientist/programmer’s first Windows machine? And just to head it off at the pass, no, we can’t go the Linux route yet. I don’t have the experience/expertise to support a system like that remotely and his parents have even less. I’m also wondering if there are any tutorials or resources I could load onto the machine that he can /watch learn from without an internet connection?

And lastly I’m wondering if anyone has any advice for encouraging him to push the boundaries of the parental controls and locks on the system. Obviously not in a way that undermines his parents authority. But I want to encourage that sense of almost devious exploration that encourages even just users to truly analyze and understand the limitations and cracks in systems they’re dropped into. To give a probably horribly outdated example from my past: figuring out how to bypass the proxy service the school network used to access browser game websites.

  • Currently only on mobile and memmy seems to be having some trouble properly displaying comments and posting my replies. I’m seeing things in my inbox but am only able to see my comment on the actual post. Will respond to people once I’m home and can access the actual site. Thanks for all the advice so far, keep it coming!
  • Evkob
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    7 months ago

    I know you said you don’t want Linux suggestions, but I’ll be that person and suggest a Linux distro anyway, in case you ever change your mind.

    Ubermix is a Ubuntu-based distro (meaning there’s a ton of documentation and support) built with education in mind. They also have a nifty feature to easily recover your system from boot if you do manage to bork the system.

    If your goal is to help your nephew get good at computer, fixing various broken systems over the years taught me probably most of what I know about how computers work. I wasn’t much older than your nephew the first time I made the family PC unbootable (I was trying to “downgrade” our “Vista-capable” PC to Windows XP, apologies if this anecdote makes anyone feel old). It took me a couple of days to get it running again after searching through YouTube and forum posts, but that rushing sense of accomplishment when it finally booted up to the bucolic green hills of the Bliss wallpaper got me hooked on troubleshooting and tinkering with technology for life.

    Either way, best of luck to you and your nephew, it’s really cool that he has someone supporting him in his interests! You’re good people.

    • Lem Jukes@lemm.eeOP
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      7 months ago

      Appreciate the suggestion and will remember it for the future. We’re going to be sticking with windows for the time being unfortunately since I can only offer remote support and ain’t no way do I have the time and ability to do that for Linux. But thanks again!

      And yeah that makes me feel old, I didnt have YouTube the first time I borked the home PC…