• Rodeo
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    8 months ago

    Which one to choose is such a non-issue it shouldn’t even be discussed.

    It’s just a number on the clock. The day doesn’t actually get any longer or shorter, it doesn’t actually get darker any earlier, the only thing that changes is the number on the clock. So adjust your life based on the actual darkness. Start work an hour earlier, go to bed an hour earlier, etc etc and wow it’s exactly the same thing as you were doing before.

    I just can’t believe people even argue about this.

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      8 months ago

      No, it isn’t nothing. There’s been studies about it and previous experiences when winter time year-round was attempted.

      In fact, keeping summer time year-round causes more accidents, particularly more child mortality, because people are in the dark when they get up during winter. Of course, fuck them cars, and children should not go to school so early. But it’s just to show that’s it’s not the same either way.

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        8 months ago

        You typed all that and still don’t realize the problem is with the start time of school/work?

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          8 months ago

          You typed this reply without seeing I actually mentioned that? I am willing to take criticism about my writing style, but don’t reply snarkily without actually reading.

          Of course, fuck them cars, and children should not go to school so early.

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              Is this Reddit? With those snarky replies that misconstrue comments, it sure feels like it.

              I just wrote “kids should not go to school so early.” Did I need to be more precise? Write five paragraphs to explain my ideas? I tried to keep it as short and simple as possible. I was hoping it would be enough to avoid impertinent and rude replies, looks like I was wrong.

              Your tone is unwelcome. It’s possible that I wasn’t clear or that we misunderstood each other, but you didn’t need to write your initial response that way, really.

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      8 months ago

      There isn’t a lot of agency in work hours, and there is no agency in school hours.

      But yes, just pick A time and get it over with.

      I’ve got strong preferences, but that based in a bias from when I worked in a windowsless office. At the end of the day, no matter the choice I’d make it work.

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      8 months ago

      the only thing that changes is the number on the clock. So adjust your life based on the actual darkness. Start work an hour earlier, go to bed an hour earlier, etc etc.

      It must be nice to have those options, but hardly anyone does.

      One example off the top of my head where a change for an earlier summer night would be summertime local events.

      Currently, they start after most people have had dinner, and end while it’s still daylight. This is a good thing since many venues don’t have the appropriate outdoor lighting. These would either have to start earlier and interfere with dinner, or later and run into it got dark. That would be awful.

      Workplaces that are 9-5, factoring in a commute and dinner, some people might never see evening daylight all year if it were cut short.

      What benefit would it actually give, other than not needing to argue about it every year? 😂

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        8 months ago

        Why can’t the workplaces change to 8-4 instead?

        It’s not the fifties anymore, 9-5 isn’t even the norm anyways. Only about 30% of the workforce are in offices.

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          8 months ago

          If it’s anything like school, having people start work earlier will result in lower productivity. Maybe.

          It still wouldn’t solve the fact that summer daylight would be cut short.

          Seems far more difficult to replace work hours than to keep daylight savings…

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            8 months ago

            No daylight is cut short, jfc. There’s exactly the same amount of daylight either way.

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              8 months ago

              The number of hours of daylight is irrelevant, since I’m sure most people would benefit from later sunsets than earlier sunrises.

              Kids especially, who you wouldn’t expect to be waking up at 5am just to catch more daylight hours.

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                8 months ago

                You mean waking up at a regular time relative to the sun?

                Why does the clock saying the number 5 matter? Why is it so important the clock says a certain number when you wake up?

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                  8 months ago

                  It’s not about when you wake up, but when you go to sleep.

                  As I mentioned previously, fewer hours of daylight at the end of the day negatively impacts a lot of people, summer community events, leisure activities, pedestrian safety, etc.

                  What benefit would we gain by getting rid of daylight savings?

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                    8 months ago

                    So go to bed earlier, genius!

                    Good Lord.