• ILikeBoobies
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    9 months ago

    The conversation exists to correct people who only ever read it, not because people reject the pronunciation rather they are unaware of it

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      9 months ago

      So your argument is actually that people who pronounce it with a hard G have just never heard anyone say it.

      And we’re taking about dot-g-i-f, the format that is hugely shared as memes and as reactions in chats, a form so well known that it’s at Kleenex level of awareness - awareness that exceeds itself - ie, all other variants of this format (apng, animated webp, even webm) are called gifs.

      And you’re saying that most people, which is, given the prevalence of gifs, probably most of our species at this point - most of the sentient life forms in our solar system are aware of this format’s name… But we’ve just never heard anyone say it. Except for a small, vocal minority - who exist mostly on the Internet and are deeply online. Those are the only people who have heard it said out loud.

      And, in that impossible scenario, most of our species - who have, again, never heard it said it loud - billions of people - all, independently, came up with the same, supposedly incorrect, pronunciation.

      That’s your argument? I feel like your case would be stronger without it.

      It’s like intentionally taking a Principal Skinner stance - everyone else on earth is wrong. Except, at least Skinner was oblivious.

      There’s simply no justification for the jif pronunciation. There’s an explanation - ie, because the creator of the format wanted to float his success on the back of a peanut butter brand. And it didn’t even work - no one calls it “jif” and yet it’s probably got better name recognition than the peanut butter. But - even as weak as that explanation is, an explanation is not a justification. A justified pronunciation - even if it’s different from the original pronunciation, is one people natively come up with, and yet is always the same.

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        9 months ago

        The ones that have heard it pronounce it jif

        I don’t see why you’re so insistent on being wrong

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          9 months ago

          On the slim chance you’re arguing in good faith and are just unaware. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_GIF

          A number of analysis have been done on this subject. Polling showed that more people pronounce with a hard g. Most dictionaries list a hard g as the primary pronunciation. More words that begin with gi use the hard g.

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          9 months ago

          It’s the children who are wrong, all three billion of them. The only ones who are right are me and my friends. We don’t have any justification or valid argument, we’re just right because we say we are.

          That’s you. That’s what you sound like.

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            9 months ago

            You literally thought that most of the species knew what gifs were

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              9 months ago

              Still do. To be clear, I’m talking about the human species, not like moths or turtles or something. Smart phones are pretty common, actually.

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                9 months ago

                A lot of people would use the term video and for instance imgur uses mp4s (hence audio)