When you allow far right attitudes to grow … they are like weeds that start appearing everywhere.

My general rule of thumb is … if one’s ideals and beliefs start affecting the lives of others … then their beliefs are not about them, they believe in wanting to control the lives of others.

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    The issue is that these people genuinely feel that the presence of normalization of lgbtq folks is “someone else’s views impeding on their life”.

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      Yeah, I’m trying to teach my brother that this isn’t true. He was bitching about the Elks name change again today and it’s fucking incredible how much energy he puts in to being pissed off about something that has literally zero tangible effect on his life.

      Like seriously. You don’t have to like it, but it in the end it doesn’t fucking matter.

      Same goes for rainbow crosswalks.

      Editing this to add: it’s like those beeping crosswalks. No one really likes them, but it’s not a big deal because we know they help people with diminished or no vision.

      I’m pretty indifferent towards rainbow crosswalks myself. They’re kind of nice when they’re fresh, but they keep getting driven over and become ugly. The coloured paint just doesn’t hold up as well. However, I know that it represents a supportive community and I like that.

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        Ya this is the goal. People only remember snippets of headlines so if you can pump out a lot of them with your agenda, that’s all anyone will believe regardless of it’s truth. I’m sorry you had to deal with someone who found a headline they really liked and tethered themselves to it.

        I’ve had this issue with my whole immediate family with the exception of my grandmother. They genuinely live in a completely separate world where left wingers are predatory and steal kids and force them to get transition surgery (?!?!?!). Some peoples lives depend on holding up this illusion.

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      It’s the fear of change … they enjoyed living in a world where they felt like they were at the top and that they could say, treat and act in certain negative ways towards ‘others’ that they considered lower or lesser than them.

      The world is changing and everyone is beginning to realize that we all just want to equally enjoy life as we want without interfering with others.

      Conservatives who feel that they are above everyone else are shaking at the knees thinking that they are actually losing their place in the world … when in reality, no one really cared about what they thought in the first place.

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        100% I think internet and social media use has really spread the whole “we just wanna live and be happy” message among everyone and that’s challenging some peoples views about “others”.

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          And the hopeful thing about that is that society as a whole is changing towards that direction. The thing we all have to keep in mind is that this is a very very gradual change and one that will come with a lot of growing pains. We are making our world one step better in this generation … it’s a small step but still a step … the generation after us will hopefully take another step forward.

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            My only fear is that there are enough people who just don’t care either way that will empower the far right to make lasting changes on our society.

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              Think of what people had to live with 50 years ago … 100 years ago … all the conservative, backward ways of thought and belief back then … we have progressed, as much as it doesn’t look like it, we have progressed and continue to do so. The fact that you are thinking about it, addressing it and debating is a continued sign of progress. Stay well my friend.

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                Very true. Culture is thought to be the slowest human construct to change and when you put it in context, it’s pretty impressive. Thanks for the different perspective :) I appreciate it.