Mr Trump made the gaffe about the threat of World War II — which finished in 1945 — during the part of his address in which he was questioning the mental acuity of 80-year-old Mr Biden.

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    9 months ago

    What would happen if trump removed the US from NATO and ordered the US military to help his friend/owner-putler?

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      9 months ago

      He could try. Doubt he would have congressional support. Even Republicans understand the nature of NATO and how it protects MAD.

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        9 months ago

        I think you’re underestimating the goals of those coordinating the global RW fascist insurgency.

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      9 months ago

      The world is left no less stable than it already is, Europe goes back to consuming cheap gas, and the Europeans finally restart their domestic military programs.

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        9 months ago

        So, the US pivoting to backing russia’s genocide against democracies wouldn’t change anything?

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          Not really, no. The US still has NATO obligations, Ukraine will still be corrupt, and Russia will still have oligarchs leeching all of their economic output.

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            9 months ago

            The FIRST thing trump would do is remove the US from NATO.

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              9 months ago

              Ah yes, because all of NATO Europe (GDP: $23 trillion) and Canada (GDP: $2 trillion) could never match the economic might of Russia (GDP: $1.8 trillion) and needs US support in any protracted conflict.

              Who do you think you’re convincing?

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                9 months ago

                I’m not talking about ‘economic’ might. I’m talking about a realignment of allies. (Just noticed a person cannot edit after accidental deletion)

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                  Would that change anything? Russia is a tiny economy even in the European context. You’re saying Europe couldn’t maintain It’s territorial sovereignty without the US in NATO?