The saudi regime is as bad we don’t have any sanction on them. Israel is doing the worst crime in humanity a fucking genocide we don’t have sanctions on the state itself. Any kind of sanctions in the war makes it harder for iran to defend itself for being genocided too. So please stop with your hypocrisy
Canada do not care either whatsoever what Iran does to their people and neither that Israel do the whole region. Israel is calling Iranians amalek like they did with IGazans meaning they want to genocide Iranians. That would be millions of dead Iranians not just thousands . The us/israel already bombed dozens of schools, hospitals and cultural sites
And just because the Iranian government is an ass doesn’t give America the right to bomb them. Or why don’t they go after every other country whose government does bad things. Sorry in this case the US is the “bad guy”.
The alternative is to trade with the totalitarian regime, which serves to keep them in power. If you could support the people but not the regime then of course that would be the best course of action, but that is not how it works.
We are trading wit an tolitarian regime called saudi arabia. It is not of canada goddamn business to force iraninas to take out their own regime. It ia not like Iran want to attack Canada.
We all know all the sanctions are there simply because Iran was made an enemy of the usa and israel
I presume you care about the nature of the Iranian gov’t because of its impact on the Iranian people. If that’s the case, you should check how sanctions are affecting the people of Iran and in general what outcomes regime-change sanctions have produced around the world. Cause it may turn out that the sanctions hurt the people you care about a lot more and for a lot longer than the gov’t you’d like to see gone.
Also check under what conditions better governments emerge out of worse ones. Hint: it tends not to be under severe sanctions.
Nobody is claiming that. This is just an idiotic straw man. You don’t have to support the government in Iran to understand that invading countries is wrong. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
I did not claim that starting a war on Iran was OK. I said that sanctioning them is OK. Sanctions on Iran should not stop just because of Trump’s idiotic war.
The Lancet has published data concluding that US imposed sanctions cause the deaths of more than 564,000 people each year. More than half of the dead are children under the age of 5. If that’s what you support, you’re utterly sick.
If open trade with, and therefore support of, a totalitarian theocratic regime that just killed tens of thousands of protestors is what you support, you’re just as sick.
The ten thousands of protesters numbers comes from iranint backed by saudi arabia. Not to say that the regime did not intentionally killed protesters. All the usa is responsible of millions of death and iarael is doing a genocide
Not only are you wrong, but you’re also exposing yourself as not having any capacity for critical thought. If you bothered actually reading Marx, then you’d know that he never argued for abolishing the state under current conditions. You’re like a chat bot quoting things without any context. Also, nice whataboutism there kiddo.
What he was actually expecting was that the contradictions of capitalism will cause the system to implode on itself, which is precisely what we see unfolding today.
Ok but who is being ruled by pedophile oligarchs? This is a Canadian sub. What is your point here, that we sanctioned Iran? While maybe we don’t all wish that there’s bombs falling on people’s heads, at the same time the regime in Iran are far from sweethearts…
Is it? It doesn’t say “in response to the America-Iran war…”. As the above poster pointed out, sanctions were occurring long before, and are continuing to occur after.
A war can have two villains. If you’d like to complain that Canada isn’t placing sanctions on the US for things they’ve done, feel free. But that is not the argument you’re making.
Iran was never a serious threat to the USA and not a threat at all to Canada . The USA was always a real threat to Iran from the day Iranians got rid of the Shah. If sanctions was always about human right abuses Canada would have sanctions on Iran during the Shah. It is pretty clear every single sanction on Iran is because of the usa and israel.
Any sanctions is reducing Iranians resources to defend itself against the USA and Israel who want to genocide them
A war can have two villains.
It is like saying both the European settlers in Canada and First nations was villains because first nations did terrible things to each others during wars
The argument I’m making is that Canada is aligning with the burger reich genocidal policy, and I guess that’s no surprise given that Canada itself is a colonial apartheid state.
Was? Colonial settlement was not pretty, and our history is supremely fucked up, so while I dislike the use of apartheid specifically, the essence is there.
Is? Absolutely not. Fuck off with this propagandist take. You should be embarrassed to be comparing the genuine atrocities of the past/parts of the world with the current state of Canada.
You’re either an utter ignoramus or spreading propaganda here intentionally. Either way, kindly take your own advice there and fuck off with your colonizer apologia.
I’m not confused at all about the fact that Canada has little practical sovereignty and acts as America’s junior partner committing crimes around the world. What’s up with living in a cave and not being aware of internet memes.
Also, I don’t actually care what you think about my comment or post, man.
Just because the US launched one of the stupidest and least planned wars in a century, does not make the Iranian government good.
Just two months ago they were killing thousands of protestors.
The saudi regime is as bad we don’t have any sanction on them. Israel is doing the worst crime in humanity a fucking genocide we don’t have sanctions on the state itself. Any kind of sanctions in the war makes it harder for iran to defend itself for being genocided too. So please stop with your hypocrisy
Ah, but the Saudi regime has dumptrucks full of money.
The Saudi regime is our problematic ally. Iran is Russia’s. Except Russia doesn’t care whatsoever what Iran does to their own people.
Canada do not care either whatsoever what Iran does to their people and neither that Israel do the whole region. Israel is calling Iranians amalek like they did with IGazans meaning they want to genocide Iranians. That would be millions of dead Iranians not just thousands . The us/israel already bombed dozens of schools, hospitals and cultural sites
If they killed thousands in a few days, how many were killed during 4 weeks of US bombing?
Both are bad. Neither should have/be happening.
And just because the Iranian government is an ass doesn’t give America the right to bomb them. Or why don’t they go after every other country whose government does bad things. Sorry in this case the US is the “bad guy”.
And Israel.
Iran was being sanctioned before the attack too. A lot of people act like any enemy of Trump is their ally, but this is not so.
With the express and publicly stated purpose to bring so much physical economic pain to the people so that they revolt against the gov’t.
The alternative is to trade with the totalitarian regime, which serves to keep them in power. If you could support the people but not the regime then of course that would be the best course of action, but that is not how it works.
We are trading wit an tolitarian regime called saudi arabia. It is not of canada goddamn business to force iraninas to take out their own regime. It ia not like Iran want to attack Canada.
We all know all the sanctions are there simply because Iran was made an enemy of the usa and israel
I presume you care about the nature of the Iranian gov’t because of its impact on the Iranian people. If that’s the case, you should check how sanctions are affecting the people of Iran and in general what outcomes regime-change sanctions have produced around the world. Cause it may turn out that the sanctions hurt the people you care about a lot more and for a lot longer than the gov’t you’d like to see gone.
Also check under what conditions better governments emerge out of worse ones. Hint: it tends not to be under severe sanctions.
Nobody is claiming that. This is just an idiotic straw man. You don’t have to support the government in Iran to understand that invading countries is wrong. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Americans…
I did not claim that starting a war on Iran was OK. I said that sanctioning them is OK. Sanctions on Iran should not stop just because of Trump’s idiotic war.
The Lancet has published data concluding that US imposed sanctions cause the deaths of more than 564,000 people each year. More than half of the dead are children under the age of 5. If that’s what you support, you’re utterly sick.
If open trade with, and therefore support of, a totalitarian theocratic regime that just killed tens of thousands of protestors is what you support, you’re just as sick.
The ten thousands of protesters numbers comes from iranint backed by saudi arabia. Not to say that the regime did not intentionally killed protesters. All the usa is responsible of millions of death and iarael is doing a genocide
Way to try justify starving children fash.
Iran doesn’t have starving children.
sure fash
Why? Borders are imaginary.
Marx knew that.
I am not a tankie and I have the same opinion cna you provide a real argument now?
Mmm, I recognise you. Pretty sure you are.
But sure: Borders are imaginary. True, yes? Then why does crossing them change whether an action is right or wrong.
I never said borders are imaginary
I know.
You want to rebut the idea, then?
that must’ve sounded really clever in your head
Am I wrong? You definitely can’t see or touch them.
The USSR also initiated a few invasions.
Not only are you wrong, but you’re also exposing yourself as not having any capacity for critical thought. If you bothered actually reading Marx, then you’d know that he never argued for abolishing the state under current conditions. You’re like a chat bot quoting things without any context. Also, nice whataboutism there kiddo.
Yeah, he was expecting there’d eventually be a global revolution… that would disregard borders.
What he was actually expecting was that the contradictions of capitalism will cause the system to implode on itself, which is precisely what we see unfolding today.
People ruled by pedophile oligarchs don’t get to decide which governments are ‘good’ and invade countries based on that.
Ok but who is being ruled by pedophile oligarchs? This is a Canadian sub. What is your point here, that we sanctioned Iran? While maybe we don’t all wish that there’s bombs falling on people’s heads, at the same time the regime in Iran are far from sweethearts…
So when is Canada invading America? If not being sweethearts is the requirement.
This is a post about Canada is supporting the attack on Iran by the Epstein coalition. Let me know if there’s something else you’re confused about.
Is it? It doesn’t say “in response to the America-Iran war…”. As the above poster pointed out, sanctions were occurring long before, and are continuing to occur after.
A war can have two villains. If you’d like to complain that Canada isn’t placing sanctions on the US for things they’ve done, feel free. But that is not the argument you’re making.
Iran was never a serious threat to the USA and not a threat at all to Canada . The USA was always a real threat to Iran from the day Iranians got rid of the Shah. If sanctions was always about human right abuses Canada would have sanctions on Iran during the Shah. It is pretty clear every single sanction on Iran is because of the usa and israel.
Any sanctions is reducing Iranians resources to defend itself against the USA and Israel who want to genocide them
It is like saying both the European settlers in Canada and First nations was villains because first nations did terrible things to each others during wars
The argument I’m making is that Canada is aligning with the burger reich genocidal policy, and I guess that’s no surprise given that Canada itself is a colonial apartheid state.
Was? Colonial settlement was not pretty, and our history is supremely fucked up, so while I dislike the use of apartheid specifically, the essence is there.
Is? Absolutely not. Fuck off with this propagandist take. You should be embarrassed to be comparing the genuine atrocities of the past/parts of the world with the current state of Canada.
No, not was, it is an apartheid state today occupying unceded indigenous land. Don’t pretend it’s history. And not only is Canadian state committing crimes against native people here, but Canadian mining companies engage in literal slavery in Africa. https://theconversation.com/slavery-charges-against-canadian-mining-company-settled-on-the-sly-148605
You’re either an utter ignoramus or spreading propaganda here intentionally. Either way, kindly take your own advice there and fuck off with your colonizer apologia.
The Canadian governments are constantly trying or doing breaches of first nations sovereignty
Agreed, but this post is talking about Canada. Are you as confused about Canada’s sovereignty as Trump is?
Also, what’s up with the completely unrelated picture?
This is a bad post and a bad comment, man.
I’m not confused at all about the fact that Canada has little practical sovereignty and acts as America’s junior partner committing crimes around the world. What’s up with living in a cave and not being aware of internet memes.
Also, I don’t actually care what you think about my comment or post, man.
You could have just said yes.
Funny that I’m the one living in a cave because I don’t keep up to date on meme culture. Get outside some time. People aren’t that bad.
I’m sorry that nuance offends you and you need everything to be presented in infantile terms.
Do you even read what people say or just copy/paste from your prefab responses?
Too bad you can’t just ban me from here too, huh?
Yes, but have you considered the world is perfectly split into good and bad guys? /s
The government’s repression and killing is still going on, and it will continue until the regime falls.
Which is why it’s bizarre we’re supporting them throughout all their belligerence.
Oh sorry I thought you were talking about the US