There is no “Epstein Class.” We are confronting something much more powerful and dangerous than one pedophile’s debauched operation that has now been dragged into the light of day. As revealing as the conduct of the ruling class ‘at play’ may be, the horrors that are inflicted on the world during working hours claim many more victims.

Epstein’s network was real and horrific, but the forces shaping war, empire, and capitalism run far deeper

  • StinkyFingerItchyBumEnglish
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    5 days ago

    Can you explain what you understand he means by “there is no Epstein class”? Because I think we are seeing the same words and not understanding the same things.

    I’m not drunk enough for this conversation. Are you the author?

    • acargitzOP
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      5 days ago

      No, but I know who it is, an anti-poverty activist with like decades of grueling and unglamorous solidarity work in Toronto, a staple of basically every single social movement, including the Palestine solidarity movement. So I’m really jarred to see this super weird reaction here.

      • _‌_反いじめ戦隊@ani.socialEnglish
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        4 days ago
        1. Not the person that your administration banned.
        2. If the author comprehends the link from capitalism in Toronto oppressions, why haven’t condemned the rich people who stole indigenous land, who were indeed in the Epstein files?
        • acargitzOP
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          4 days ago

          I don’t understand what you mean by your point #1.

          About #2, I’m actually confused about where you got that Clark isnt denouncing Canadian colonialism. That’s completely misconstruing what he’s saying. Clark denounces the ruling class in it’s totality, his whole point being that if you focus on the Epstein scandal in isolation (as the antisemitic wing of Maga would like you to do) the problem is you’re missing exactly all the other ways the ruling class (Jewish or not) is fucking us over.

          • _‌_反いじめ戦隊@ani.socialEnglish
            1·
            4 days ago

            1. Read usernames. Frame that I am not the prior person who your administration banned in this conversation earlier.

            2. If Clarke denounces the rulers, why isn’t he also denouncing their apartheid praxis as Zionists? They seem to be doing fine apartheiding Inuit, Métis, Haida, Kwantlen, Yupik, Cree, etc…

            • acargitzOP
              1·
              4 days ago

              Thanks for the clarification. I had nothing to do with that ban, their behaviour in this thread doesn’t merit a report, but seeing their comment history, I think I see what happened.

              Anyway, to your point 2. I don’t see where you got that idea? Clarke has authored multiple articles for Canadian Dimension, just click the link on his name: https://canadiandimension.com/articles/author/john-clarke His positions about the Canadian zionist lobby and Canadian colonialism are nowhere near what you’re implying here (“seem to be doing fine”). This is a person who has literally spent decades on the street organizing with the people at the “business end” of exactly the systems of oppression you’re naming.

              • _‌_反いじめ戦隊@ani.socialEnglish
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                4 days ago

                Did we read the same Zionist lobbies essay?

                The degree of cooperation involved in the release of these two documents is unclear but there is no doubt that pro-Israel organizations like B’nai Brith work to ensure that not only explicitly anti-Zionist views but also any robust criticism of Israel will be treated as a form of hate speech and suppressed as such.
                […]
                When people argue that Canada is a settler state that is deeply racist in nature, there is no threat of criminal sanction, yet, the same evaluation of Israel is labelled hate speech and the call for a free Palestine “from the river to the sea” can invite legal consequences. This incongruity is very largely the work of the pro-Israel lobby.
                The Canadian establishment doggedly enables Israel and finds it advantageous for supporters of the Palestinian struggle to be contained. However, the lobby’s role in equating Jewish identity with Zionism and labelling opposition to this colonialist ideology as antisemitic is a potent factor that we should not underestimate.
                The pro-Israel lobby is a determined, resourceful and dangerous enemy that we must challenge and defeat as we build a powerful movement of solidarity with the struggle for a free Palestine.

                organizing with the people at the “business end” of exactly the systems of oppression

                Squatting and evictions are not landback and antizionist praxis.🤦‍♀️ OCAP should be removing the oppressors from resources to oppress, and composting the Zionists in his neighborhood.

                The Epstein class is the very same imperialist class creating oppressions.

                • acargitzOP
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                  4 days ago

                  Can you please clarify a bit more explicit what you’re trying to say? I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make with the pieces of text you are quoting. Are you trying to say that what Clarke is saying in these pieces of text is problematic? Or are you trying to say that they contradict what he writes in the latest article? Or are you saying something else?

                  Squatting and evictions are not landback and antizionist praxis.🤦‍♀️

                  Umm, are they not? The homeless population in Toronto is disproportionately indigenous. Organizing with indigenous homeless folks to squat properties on stolen land sounds like land fucking back to me.

                  And the kind of sustained and prolonged and longitudinal grassroots movement building is exactly the movement infrastructure on which all sorts of organizing in the city used as a backbone for decades. You’re talking about OCAP as if they were some posers or something, but if you were doing anarchist or grassroots organizing for the three decades up to 2020 when they just got too old, you would know that these were the people every single social movement in the city could depend on to show up and have their backs. They were there when BDS was criminalized, they were there for (and often were some of the same people who lead) initiatives like QuAIA or SAIA, bearing the brunt of state repression. And you are random internet person performing facepalms.

                  OCAP should be removing the oppressors from resources to oppress, and composting the Zionists in his neighborhood.

                  Again, I’m not sure what to make of this. Is this some kind of edge-posting or something?