If she refuses to make a choice and as a result both die, then the consequences of not making a choice are because of her. The whole bc situation isn’t her fault. But not choosing is on her. In the case of Dems vs repubs, it’s not even a hard choice as one side supports child rapists, seriously harmful random international policies, and there are many other issues that make it clear Dems are better.
That’s your point, my point is the democrats and republicans are both fascists and it doesn’t matter that much which you choose. Voting for the “less bad” fascist to kill the older kid isn’t working “effectively” against the fascists.
They are not the same. I totally understand that the Dems are evil. But it’s so silly to say they’re as bad as the repubs under trump, or any of the current maga crowd. So voting for the lesser evil gets you lesser evil. Otherwise you get more evil. And that’s worse. I don’t see how it can be any simpler. Not voting won’t change the dems - they just move further right to try to get that vote since the left base evaporated. Work in the primaries to get more progressive candidates on the ballot. Start grass roots actions. Whatever. But not voting for the lesser evil while you do that is crazy. Heck, we may not even get another free election in the U.S. and this could have all been avoided if there were just a few more left leaning voters who got up off their asses and voted logically.
No, they’re not as bad, by about the same amount as Ralph is not as bad as Dirk. It doesn’t matter which you choose, they’re gonna kill a kid. It doesn’t matter whether you vote for democrats or not, tens of thousands of Palestinians will be slaughtered using our tax dollars.
I don’t know how else to put it. All the bad things that are worse under republicans are dwarfed by Palestine. Ice has killed…what, a handful of protestors and a few dozen kidnappees? It’s awful of course, but a rounding error on Palestine.
Maybe that extra rounding error of evil could have been avoided if leftists had been willing to acquiesce to the rest of it…maybe. But it definitely would have been avoided if the democrats had changed, and so would so much else.
You seem to be able to accept unquestioningly that the democrats won’t stop arming a genocide (I don’t, they need to change or else the US is fucked, even if they win. Best we can hope for then is a rapid collapse). I think you should also accept that lots of people will not vote to arm a genocide.
I think the Dems would have pushed back against Israel. Not anywhere near as much as we may want, but way more than trump/republicans. We can’t know now what they would have done, but it wouldn’t have been as bad as Trump’s openly encouraging genocide. And trump will do his best to stop fair elections in the U.S. - he will likely kill democracy. That means no improvement can come even if we manage to get enough progressives in a position to get seats. The downfall of the U.S. will take decades even under trump and his ilk before the pitchforks remove them. In that time, he will allow the complete destruction of Gaza and other places in the ME. That’s millions of people dead and impoverished because people like you couldn’t see the difference. Wake up!
Why do you think the Democrats would have pushed back? I don’t believe there’s any factual basis for that. I don’t believe they’ve even whispered a word about slowing military aid. Biden did way more to openly encourage genocide than trump has so…I don’t really understand what you mean.
Amen man, I think the democrats should do everything they can to fight like hell and beat the fascists. Including not arming a genocide (which of course, they should do for more reasons than just winning the US elections).
I absolutely cannot comprehend how them not doing that is acceptable to you, but me not voting for them is not acceptable to you lol…like they’re clearly the moral agent here. All I can do is whine about it, lodge my non-vote and get back to my life. This is their fuckin job. They have unimaginable resources to figure this out, but sure I guess fuck me for not taking my one in two hundred million part in the decision of which party of genocidal maniacs is in charge; sweet or bitter.
You gotta be trolling me man. You’re gonna blame Sophie?
If she refuses to make a choice and as a result both die, then the consequences of not making a choice are because of her. The whole bc situation isn’t her fault. But not choosing is on her. In the case of Dems vs repubs, it’s not even a hard choice as one side supports child rapists, seriously harmful random international policies, and there are many other issues that make it clear Dems are better.
Ok, I’m gonna keep my focus and ire on the fascists. I’ll leave you to spend time and energy backseat driving Sophie’s choice.
But that’s the point. If you don’t vote in an effective way against the fascists when you can, your focus is irrelevant.
That’s your point, my point is the democrats and republicans are both fascists and it doesn’t matter that much which you choose. Voting for the “less bad” fascist to kill the older kid isn’t working “effectively” against the fascists.
They are not the same. I totally understand that the Dems are evil. But it’s so silly to say they’re as bad as the repubs under trump, or any of the current maga crowd. So voting for the lesser evil gets you lesser evil. Otherwise you get more evil. And that’s worse. I don’t see how it can be any simpler. Not voting won’t change the dems - they just move further right to try to get that vote since the left base evaporated. Work in the primaries to get more progressive candidates on the ballot. Start grass roots actions. Whatever. But not voting for the lesser evil while you do that is crazy. Heck, we may not even get another free election in the U.S. and this could have all been avoided if there were just a few more left leaning voters who got up off their asses and voted logically.
No, they’re not as bad, by about the same amount as Ralph is not as bad as Dirk. It doesn’t matter which you choose, they’re gonna kill a kid. It doesn’t matter whether you vote for democrats or not, tens of thousands of Palestinians will be slaughtered using our tax dollars.
I don’t know how else to put it. All the bad things that are worse under republicans are dwarfed by Palestine. Ice has killed…what, a handful of protestors and a few dozen kidnappees? It’s awful of course, but a rounding error on Palestine.
Maybe that extra rounding error of evil could have been avoided if leftists had been willing to acquiesce to the rest of it…maybe. But it definitely would have been avoided if the democrats had changed, and so would so much else.
You seem to be able to accept unquestioningly that the democrats won’t stop arming a genocide (I don’t, they need to change or else the US is fucked, even if they win. Best we can hope for then is a rapid collapse). I think you should also accept that lots of people will not vote to arm a genocide.
I think the Dems would have pushed back against Israel. Not anywhere near as much as we may want, but way more than trump/republicans. We can’t know now what they would have done, but it wouldn’t have been as bad as Trump’s openly encouraging genocide. And trump will do his best to stop fair elections in the U.S. - he will likely kill democracy. That means no improvement can come even if we manage to get enough progressives in a position to get seats. The downfall of the U.S. will take decades even under trump and his ilk before the pitchforks remove them. In that time, he will allow the complete destruction of Gaza and other places in the ME. That’s millions of people dead and impoverished because people like you couldn’t see the difference. Wake up!
Why do you think the Democrats would have pushed back? I don’t believe there’s any factual basis for that. I don’t believe they’ve even whispered a word about slowing military aid. Biden did way more to openly encourage genocide than trump has so…I don’t really understand what you mean.
Amen man, I think the democrats should do everything they can to fight like hell and beat the fascists. Including not arming a genocide (which of course, they should do for more reasons than just winning the US elections).
I absolutely cannot comprehend how them not doing that is acceptable to you, but me not voting for them is not acceptable to you lol…like they’re clearly the moral agent here. All I can do is whine about it, lodge my non-vote and get back to my life. This is their fuckin job. They have unimaginable resources to figure this out, but sure I guess fuck me for not taking my one in two hundred million part in the decision of which party of genocidal maniacs is in charge; sweet or bitter.